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coreydaniel
09-06-2008, 10:49 AM
hey guys. Ive been fooling with 2.3 turbos for a few years. I have a 88 ranger with all the stock computer and vam. BIg vam, injectors, t3 pushing 20psi, front mount, and custom intake with 5.0 75mm throttle body. Runs great. But im interested in converting it to MAF. I have the general idea of how to do it. I know i have to get a tuner and change some of the bin. files to diff values. But im not sure what tuner is the best. Moates.net stuff seems to be the cheapest way to go. But the tweecer RT also seems good because it alows you to datalog which is a big part of tuning, but it is also $550. Any imput would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

QWKSNKE
09-06-2008, 01:48 PM
SvoBrown did the MAF swap on his svo.

Which EEC are you running? Stock Ranger? I have used the Tweecer on a 5.0 but not the 2.3. With that being said, I loved the Tweecer for tuning

RedSuperRanger23
09-06-2008, 04:33 PM
I'm planning on using my stock PCM and using the old style diablo chips to tune with.

SvoBrown
09-07-2008, 06:59 AM
It was easy to install. Just a few wires to change over and then it was time to tune.

http://www.svoca.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-9913.html



I did the moates things. It took a lot of time and a few bucks to get it right. You must have a data logger with wide band and be able to log rpm, tps, boost, maf voltage. Mine has been setup for almost 3 years now and runs great. Took a lot of leg work and finding the right person to do the tune for me. Guy at Motion Dynamics in Texas did it for me. I think?? I sent a datalog sheet to him with the chip,
With all that said, If I had to do it again I would be a Stand alone and run it off of that. Save up some more money and do it right.If your ever in Oxford we can get together and compare Some stuff. I still have some of my moates stuff if you decide that is the best route.

coreydaniel
09-07-2008, 10:18 AM
im using the LA2 pcm. SVObrown, thanks for the input. I know it takes a data logger. Thats why i thought the tweecer rt would be best. From what ive read it logs everything you said i need to log and its user friendly. I have thought of the stand alone with megasquirt but dont know anyine who has done it. Ive heard that that is more race oriented than for street driving, but i dont know that for certain.

SvoBrown
09-07-2008, 12:29 PM
Friend in Tenn. has the holly 950. Had one tune for the track with about 350 hp and another tune for the street. That way his kids could drive it to school. You can just do so much more with good stuff. I still look at the Big Stuff 3. I want it.

coreydaniel
09-07-2008, 08:29 PM
Yeah that stuff is sooo expensive though. I might go that way when i get more comfortable with the tuning side of things. Im making good power now,
around 230hp to the wheels. I just know in my head that the VAM is such a restiction. And i think it is at its limit. Plus i can upgrade to 42 pound injectors too.

SvoBrown
09-08-2008, 03:20 AM
running 55# injectors in mine. Look into running a map sensor also. Megasquirt can set up up on that. That to me is the best way to go. Then it is a air filter on the turbo!

coreydaniel
09-08-2008, 03:53 PM
yeah i was thinking of trying that too. Ive heard that the 3.0v is the best. But then i would still have to buy a data logger and stuff. Oh decisions decisions,lol. How do the 55's work for you? Have you ever dyno tested yours.
Im going to be using a Holset on this next setup and a custom intake too. So in theiry ill be able to move quite a bit more air through the engine.

SvoBrown
09-08-2008, 05:17 PM
Where are you located at. I might be able to set you up on a few things.

coreydaniel
09-08-2008, 06:07 PM
I live in kentucky. I appreciate all the help man. Here is a link to some pics if you want to check it out.
http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd258/babybuggyboo_2007/

SvoBrown
09-09-2008, 03:45 AM
Nice work. Now back to the tune. I would go with what Lee talked about, BUT. You have to learn a lot with that. Even Lee said it was a task to work with but it can be done!
THe megasquirt, I have heard a lot of good things on it but not see anything.

The down side of the moates is the tunning. You must have software and know how to use it in order to make it right. Or have someone that know this stuff inside and out and will take the time with you to get it right. Last thing is know someone and pay them on the dyno to get it right. Cost is a little more but it is done the same day. and you know who to ask if you change something.

Hope I was some help.

QWKSNKE
09-09-2008, 06:58 AM
The good thing about the tweecer is that you have at least 4 of us that are pretty good with here on the board. Back when I bought mine and Italian LX bought his we didn't have anybody to ask questions to, therefore we had a massive learning curve for a few months.
Eventually I will either do a tweecer r/t or megasquirt on my svo if I get that deep into it.

TheJeanyus
09-09-2008, 07:04 AM
Eventually I will do a megasquirt on my svo if I get that deep into it.
:huh:


:rofl:

coreydaniel
09-09-2008, 06:55 PM
thanks a lot guys. I appreciate all the advice and help. I will get the car running ion the factory stuff and then move on. That will give me a little time to save and think somemore.