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95cobra
10-13-2008, 03:08 PM
what plug and gap is needed.

im running msd btm and msd dizzy.

can someone explain the btm for me. i get the concept of when its on setting 1 it pulls 1 degree per lb of boost and 2 at 2 and so on. question is how will i know which setting i need to put it at. going to try for 12lb of boost.

is it like nos so many degrees per 50 shot or something like that?:shrug:

QWKSNKE
10-13-2008, 04:00 PM
The object of btm is to pull total timing like you mentioned above. The helpful hint is knowing how much timing your EEC has at WOT. I am sure that the sn95 EECs have around the same timing parameters as a foxbody. So, with your base timing set at 10 degrees with the spout out, your EEC is going to allow a max of 27 degrees at WOT. So have your btm set to where your max timing at WOT and 12 psi is around 17 degrees if the new motor has flat top pistons. If the new motor has dished pistons, you can allow more timing at full boost.

95cobra
10-13-2008, 04:40 PM
The object of btm is to pull total timing like you mentioned above. The helpful hint is knowing how much timing your EEC has at WOT. I am sure that the sn95 EECs have around the same timing parameters as a foxbody. So, with your base timing set at 10 degrees with the spout out, your EEC is going to allow a max of 27 degrees at WOT. So have your btm set to where your max timing at WOT and 12 psi is around 17 degrees if the new motor has flat top pistons. If the new motor has dished pistons, you can allow more timing at full boost.
pistons are forged dish..

any idea on plug and gap?

BAD INT
10-13-2008, 05:09 PM
42-48

QWKSNKE
10-13-2008, 05:35 PM
I couldn't run mine over .035 without spark blow out.

hmm dished pistons. Any idea what cc your heads are? You can probably run 20-21 degrees total timing to start with

qkjuicedpony
10-13-2008, 07:45 PM
Set timing at 10 degrees base and set BTM on 1.

My car runs perfect just like that and made very good power

95cobra
10-13-2008, 08:40 PM
I couldn't run mine over .035 without spark blow out.

hmm dished pistons. Any idea what cc your heads are? You can probably run 20-21 degrees total timing to start with
heads are 64cc with piston dss say almost 8.5 to1 compression

militarymustang88gt
10-13-2008, 09:51 PM
i know my buddy is running autolite 44s gaped to a .040

04 Mach1
10-14-2008, 06:17 AM
I set mine either .028 or .030

LeeH
10-15-2008, 08:43 AM
Set timing at 10 degrees base and set BTM on 1.

My car runs perfect just like that and made very good power

1 = 1* of timing retard per 1# of boost
2 = 2* of timing retard per 1# of boost
and so on.

qkjuicedpony
10-15-2008, 03:03 PM
1 = 1* of timing retard per 1# of boost
2 = 2* of timing retard per 1# of boost
and so on.



You are correct:D

Also my plugs are at .030 as well

95cobra
10-15-2008, 06:48 PM
You are correct:D

Also my plugs are at .030 as well

what plugs are u running?

LeeH
10-15-2008, 06:50 PM
A colder plug works best.

95cobra
10-15-2008, 06:51 PM
A colder plug works best.
i figured that but i have no clue which one to buy dont want to waste money on something thats not right.

SlowJoe
10-15-2008, 07:01 PM
i figured that but i have no clue which one to buy dont want to waste money on something thats not right.

how close are you?

qkjuicedpony
10-15-2008, 07:13 PM
what plugs are u running?


I run 3923 Autolites

04 Mach1
10-15-2008, 07:30 PM
Autolite any where from a 3922 to 3924. The folks that tuned the car had motorcrafts equal to autolite 3926 thought that was a bit hot.

qkjuicedpony
10-15-2008, 07:38 PM
Autolite any where from a 3922 to 3924. The folks that tuned the car had motorcrafts equal to autolite 3926 thought that was a bit hot.


Thats damn warm:D


Im hoping for a few more hp next trip to the dyno

LeeH
10-15-2008, 07:55 PM
I run 3923 Autolites

Thats whats in my white car, Just waiting to put the head unit on it.

qkjuicedpony
10-15-2008, 08:04 PM
Thats whats in my white car, Just waiting to put the head unit on it.


whats the details?


I ran out of fuel so I added another pump.gnna go back and see what happens now

95cobra
10-15-2008, 08:16 PM
how close are you?
didnt get to work on it today. i still got to put spacers on upper,finish installing btm, buy/install plugs, put xpipe,front bumper, few other things on. few hours worth. ive got to find a car trailer because i dont want to drive it that far without it tuned.

LeeH
10-15-2008, 09:11 PM
whats the details?


I ran out of fuel so I added another pump.gnna go back and see what happens now


Stock short block with Edelbrock Performer RPM heads 60229, Edelbrock Performer EFI intake, 65mm BBK/Eddy T-body, TFS 1.7 rockers on a stock 90 cam, FMS 36# inj, PMAS 75, MSD 6T with a soft touch, UPR boost master pipe, S-Trim, Flotech LTs, Flotech H pipe and Summit catback.
The S-Trim and power pipe are'nt on it right now, It runs real good for what it is.

QWKSNKE
10-15-2008, 10:36 PM
Autolite any where from a 3922 to 3924.

+1. I also ran autolite 3922's and 3923's in my car with each combination

qkjuicedpony
10-16-2008, 03:08 AM
Stock short block with Edelbrock Performer RPM heads 60229, Edelbrock Performer EFI intake, 65mm BBK/Eddy T-body, TFS 1.7 rockers on a stock 90 cam, FMS 36# inj, PMAS 75, MSD 6T with a soft touch, UPR boost master pipe, S-Trim, Flotech LTs, Flotech H pipe and Summit catback.
The S-Trim and power pipe are'nt on it right now, It runs real good for what it is.


I just did some tuning on the exact same setup here in Ga.

Made 474rwhp on pump gas with a/c.but it did have 42's and a meter.

The stock cam makes good power with the blower but hits a wall around 5500 rpms

LeeH
10-16-2008, 01:15 PM
I just did some tuning on the exact same setup here in Ga.

Made 474rwhp on pump gas with a/c.but it did have 42's and a meter.

The stock cam makes good power with the blower but hits a wall around 5500 rpms

What kind of meter do you have? My PMAS 75mm is a cheap meter but seems to work pretty good.

qkjuicedpony
10-16-2008, 02:18 PM
What kind of meter do you have? My PMAS 75mm is a cheap meter but seems to work pretty good.


Believe it or not it has an 80mm C&L:D

LeeH
10-16-2008, 02:26 PM
Believe it or not it has an 80mm C&L:D

C&L meters are good, I have never had any problems with them. This PMAS meter was cheap and calibrated for 36s so I jumped on it, I payed $40 shipped fot it.

LeeH
10-16-2008, 04:22 PM
I just did some tuning on the exact same setup here in Ga.

Made 474rwhp on pump gas with a/c.but it did have 42's and a meter.

The stock cam makes good power with the blower but hits a wall around 5500 rpms

The newer Edelbrocks will make good power, I got a good deal on them and they fit within my goals for this engine.

QWKSNKE
10-16-2008, 09:11 PM
Believe it or not it has an 80mm C&L:D

I am surprised the dyno sheet didn't look like an EKG strip then