opinions on hp please.

[waypastcrazy]

Not sure if this is the correct place to post this. But here it goes.I am at a place in my build where for just a little bit of a change I can move from 700 hp na give or take a little to 800 plus.but will take a little more maintenance and loose some driveability.just trying get a few opinions.I don't want to take the fun factor away. Should I leave alone and just add little spray or what?

[coupe]

Depends on what the "change" is. I can tell you this: 700hp is more than enough to be insane on the highway and to run 9's with relative ease.

[TheJeanyus]

Your post is pretty ambiguous, but I personally think a 700-ish hp car that was streetable would be way more fun than a 800 hp car with poor driveability. I wouldn't have a car that I couldn't cruise around town in, though.

[waypastcrazy]

The change is a little more port work and a cam that is rougher on valve train parts

[Wall96cobra]

Personally I think when drivability starts to suffer it's not really fun/enjoyable anymore. It's easy to get caught up in the HP game but if this is a car you still like to drive on the street I wouldn't get too crazy with it.

[qkjuicedpony]

Put it together the way you planned and drive it.Then if you want to you can upgrade later.

700hp N/A is gonna have some shitty driveability anyways since it wont be a pump gas motor

[waypastcrazy]

Put it together the way you planned and drive it.Then if you want to you can upgrade later.

700hp N/A is gonna have some shitty driveability anyways since it wont be a pump gas motoryes it will be pump gas motor

[qkjuicedpony]

yes it will be pump gas motor


Give up some specs on the motor then:D

Big Block I know...but what else

[waypastcrazy]

Give up some specs on the motor then:D

Big Block I know...but what elseI headed to atlanta I fill ya in later today. I can say big as u can safely go on stock block and tfs heads lmao monster

[waypastcrazy]

Lil ol 429 just funn ya

[coupe]

...yes it will be pump gas motor
700hp ?!? Pump gas?!? :think: It better be 632-inches. :D

[qkjuicedpony]

700hp ?!? Pump gas?!? :think: It better be 632-inches. :d



Yep:D

[waypastcrazy]

Yep:DI know a little more than u guys think I do

[qkjuicedpony]

I know a little more than u guys think I do



I hope so.....:D


And I hope you aren't using DeskTop Dyno too


:jester:

[waypastcrazy]

I hope so.....:D


And I hope you aren't using DeskTop Dyno too


:jester:u r thinkn inside the box. Cause u are thinkn 93 octane and I don't use desktop u aint talkn to no kid

[qkjuicedpony]

So your pump gas is over 100 Octane then:D

[waypastcrazy]

So your pump gas is over 100 Octane then:Dsure will be

[waypastcrazy]

heres a 12 to 1 build 460 that has been proven mine is a 557 with 11.8 compression and yes i can up the octane quiet easy but am not going to disclose it at this time cause u wouldnt beleive me anyway and i have r&d"d chambered shape size and quench pad shape and design and cam design with polished chambers and stroke and rod length etc that will run on 100 octane u do the math.even if i come up a tad short i will shoot alittle spray.lol 100-octane. Horsepower peak at 6,500 rpm. Keep redline to 7200 rpm.

650-675HP 460ci

Intake System:

1150cfm Holley Dominator Carb professionally calibrated for your application
Edelbrock Victor Dominator Intake ported

Cylinder Heads:

TFS street heads with port job and Victor port match
Roller rockers.
Stud girdle.

Short Block:

Comp Cam custom spec solid roller cam or equivalent
Xtreme Energy Street Rollers on intake and CR Series Rollers on Exhaust
Lobe 4879 on intake and Lobe 4682 on exhaust
(Specs:310/311 adv., 272/280@.050, .698/.683 lift, 110 LSA)
Compression around 12.0:1
Stock crank
Scat H-beam rods with upgraded bolts
Block oiling mods
High volume oil pump
Deepened and fully baffled oil pan with windage tray

Exhaust:

1 7/8" headers to dual 3" pipes with H-pipe. Good flowing 3" Magnaflow mufflers or equivalent.

Summary:

100-octane. Horsepower peak at 6,700 rpm. Keep redline to 7200 rpm.

[QWKSNKE]

Personally I think when drivability starts to suffer it's not really fun/enjoyable anymore. .


I agree. That is what's cool about a car with boost.

15psi on a very mild motor equals lots of fun

[waypastcrazy]

the more cubes the more street friendly it will be.thats eqautes to 1.4 hp per cubic inch and that is being a little conservative.and my hp will peak approximately 5 to 800 rpm lower so this will not be a high rpm engine.

[waypastcrazy]

and my rotating assembly is a substantial amount lighter than stock configurated size pistons and rods so rpms will come on quick:popcorn:

[waypastcrazy]

heres a 512 cube motor with 1 point more compress but 45 cubes smaller. From Charlie and Lem Evans...

Very impressive combo!

In regards to the question posted above somewhere, I'll try to give a brief description of the engine.

1. DIVE 2 bolt main block with offset ground cast production crank. Wet sump and no vacuum pump.
2. 6.800" Eagle rods with JE pistons and a 12.8:1 compression ratio.
3. Motorsport/Edelbrock Victor intake manifold for the Dominator carbs. Plus a 1" open spacer and a 1" HVH Super Sucker spacer. 2" total.
4. Biggs 1050 3 circuit carb with 92 sq. jets on race gas.
5. Ford Duraspark SVO by MSD distributor
6. Comp Cams roller cam. It was an old one of Lem's that had been reground with the following specs; 275*/285* @ .050", .759"/.762" lift, LSA 111*, and intake centerline of 111*.
7. Ported head flow #'s
Intake avg.
.200=148, .300=233, .400=301, .500=335, .600=357, .700=373, .800=378 cfm.
Exhaust avg.
.200=116, .300=147, .400=172, .500=184, .600=222, .700=232, .800=234 cfm.

800Hp @ 6700.
Torque was 680 @ 5200

Just a rather basic 512 CID engine and I'm sure there are several of you that can and have done better, none the less, this was a fairly good engine and I attribute it's good numbers to the camshaft and intake port flow.

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[SlowJoe]

Leave it alone it is plenty enough hp and torque and a lot more streetable than a maxed out 302 block and you only have 2600 lbs to move down the track it is going to be a handful as it is. just get it finished so we can bust some ass!I am tired of waiting and net gona kick your tail if you keep on she done said 700 is to much and already wanting dyno sheets to prove it is not more than that lmao she gona shut you down and I am going to have to drive it! Lol stop screwing around!

[coupe]

:stupid: Leave it alone...I don't wanna have to turn my boost up. :D

[qkjuicedpony]

700hp in a 2600 pound car and still gets drug down the track by a 3100 pound 5 speed Mustang on drag radials.......Damn I wouldnt want to be you :D:D

My car is waiting and makes nowhere near 700hp so with that being said.

"Bring it bitch"

:D:D

[coupe]

...so with that being said.
"Bring it bitch"

... http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/Smileys/default/shocked2.gif

[SlowJoe]

... http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/Smileys/default/shocked2.gif he will run and hide when it comes time

[qkjuicedpony]

he will run and hide when it comes time


Actually YOU will talk shit up until the day its supposed to go down and then you will bring your wife with you and say she wont let you race.

I hope Clyde aint as whooped as you are


:jester::jester:

[waypastcrazy]

700hp in a 2600 pound car and still gets drug down the track by a 3100 pound 5 speed Mustang on drag radials.......Damn I wouldnt want to be you :D:D

My car is waiting and makes nowhere near 700hp so with that being said.

"Bring it bitch"

:D:DI will take u up on that biotch!lol it will take me 3 months just to get guy to finish my suspension. Hell its prob gona be turd anyway.

[SlowJoe]

Actually YOU will talk shit up until the day its supposed to go down and then you will bring your wife with you and say she wont let you race. I hope Clyde aint as whooped as you are :jester::jester: bull! U knew i was on my way! And i did show up. And where was u at

[qkjuicedpony]

bull! U knew i was on my way! And i did show up. And where was u at



By the time you showed up.....7 hours late...I had already raced several people and broke my clutch so i went home.

[SlowJoe]

By the time you showed up.....7 hours late...I had already raced several people and broke my clutch so i went home. yea ok! Was hal car broke to? If yall would have picked up the phone i would have came to ya!

[qkjuicedpony]

yea ok! Was hal car broke to? If yall would have picked up the phone i would have came to ya!


He was following me to make sure I made it home.

When I turned in my subdivision the clutch came apart and I coasted into my garage

[waypastcrazy]

Had to dig my boots out! Cause it sure gettn deep here lol!

[QWKSNKE]

Actually YOU will talk shit up until the day its supposed to go down and then you will bring your wife with you and say she wont let you race.

I hope Clyde aint as whooped as you are


:jester::jester:

:spit::rofl:

[EHardy1971]

the more cubes the more street friendly it will be.
There better be a lot of gas stations on that street.:D

[waypastcrazy]

Not to concerned about mileage all this started when someone pissed me off I hate gettn pissed cause I do waypastcrazy things. Lol

[coupe]

Someone around here piss you off?! :think:

Hope it wasn't me...'cause my little motor won't have nothin' for a dominator and spray on a big block... :shake:

[waypastcrazy]

Someone around here piss you off?! :think:

Hope it wasn't me...'cause my little motor won't have nothin' for a dominator and spray on a big block... :shake:no it wasn't u and this lil ol 429 gona prob be a turd and be hard to get to the ground.trust me they know who they are but I not pissd now just gone to far to turn back. Lol one last hoo. Ra before I get to old

[qkjuicedpony]

It was Joe wasnt it:D:D

[SlowJoe]

It was Joe wasnt it:D:D no he know he cant touch my car!

[QWKSNKE]

no it wasn't u and this lil ol 429 gona prob be a turd and be hard to get to the ground.trust me they know who they are but I not pissd now just gone to far to turn back. Lol one last hoo. Ra before I get to old

big blocks suck :poke:

:D

[waypastcrazy]

big blocks suck :poke:

:Dsuck what?u up their tail pipe. Lmao!

[qkjuicedpony]

Aint nobody scared of your old 429ci boat anchor:D:D

[waypastcrazy]

Aint nobody scared of your old 429ci boat anchor:D:DI don't care if they are or not I will still have fun with it. Its mostly built to bust the local chevies ass. But if you insist you can have some to!

[SlowJoe]

suck what?u up their tail pipe. Lmao! u better watch it his 14sec ride will bust u up