cam/head combo ?'s

[natedawgg94]

Looking for a good performance combo with an e303 cam with say a proM 80 mass and a 70mm throttle body??? Was thinking maybe the trick flow twisted wedge but not real sure...

[QWKSNKE]

How much power do you want. Those GT-40y's like what's on your dad's cobra are a pretty good bang for the buck. You have several of us on here running aluminum heads, each a different brand.

Just kinda goes with what you want to spend too. GT-40y's and Edelbrocks are 2 of the cheapest. Next up is trickflow and after that is AFR. All of them offer pretty major gains over what you have now. :nice:

[Wicked]

I agree with Qwksnake. All are much better heads than stock.
I have a friend that uses TFS heads with the E303 and GT40 Tubular intake. He made 297rwhp/324rwtq. That was on a low mileage(rebuilt+50K miles) 306 with stock compression.

[EZ SPEED]

I agree with Qwksnake. All are much better heads than stock.
I have a friend that uses TFS heads with the E303 and GT40 Tubular intake. He made 297rwhp/324rwtq. That was on a low mileage(rebuilt+50K miles) 306 with stock compression.

Yeah, Nathan wants to hit as close to N/A 300 rwhp as possible.

[95GTMan]

Just outta couriosity why the E cam?

[Italian LX]

Just outta couriosity why the E cam?
E-cams rock! :metal:




:D


. . . but I'll sell you mine. :nice:

[1Quik85GT]

I wouldnt go with the Twisted wedge heads, because over i belive .540 lift it may be .545 lift you have to go to a twisted wedge piston. Another thing is that the Twisted wedges do not flow well out of the box. At .500 lift and 600 lift they flow the same thing. Its a good head for a limited cam lift class, such as P/S or S/W headsup class. I would go with AFR's

[QWKSNKE]

actually Stephen, its between .525-.530 lift that is the most you are recommended to go with on stock pistons with those heads.

[coupe]

I actually prefer a TW over an AFR; but that's because I wouldn't leave them "out of the box" stock. Bang for the buck: get the very inexpensive GT40-Y's and a TFS stg1 camshaft. trust me. :nice:

[natedawgg94]

coupe why you say the gt4o y's and tfs cam? I've heard of the gt40 y's but haven' t seen anything on the tfs cam... :chug:

[natedawgg94]

If anyone hears of anything for sale cheap let me know. I'd like to buy part by part cause I'm on a pretty tight budget.

[95GTMan]

I have a set of gt-40 irons and the TFS valve spring kit for them if you are intersted. :chug:

These are the heads off of Erics old cobra so you would have to have them worked also.

[coupe]

...but haven' t seen anything on the tfs cam... :chug:

Look here:

http://forums.qwiksnake.com/vbgarage.php?do=view&id=36

You have now. :D

[86GT]

I have the Edelbrock 6037 heads with the E-cam, and it does pretty well.

[1Quik85GT]

Lee

ok, I knew it was kinda cam lift, wasnt for sure, thanx

[1Quik85GT]

"some"

[natedawgg94]

I'm wanting to go with an alum. head 95gtman. I've looked at the edelbrock heads but wasn't sure if they could produce what i want.... :chug:

[qkjuicedpony]

I'm wanting to go with an alum. head 95gtman. I've looked at the edelbrock heads but wasn't sure if they could produce what i want.... :chug:



you want 300 rwhp correct????

what budget do you have???


on a stock shortblock car i recommend the following

twisted wedge heads
b303 cam
1.7 roller rockers
typhoon intake/or edelbrock
70mm throttle body
76mm mass air
24 pound injectors

this combo made right at 300rwhp in a 95 gt with all stock electronics and a/c and power steering....and the 95 gt is for sale too

[QWKSNKE]

Lee

ok, I knew it was kinda cam lift, wasnt for sure, thanx


no problem. Hope I didn't come off assholish about it

[natedawgg94]

Here's what coming for sure 24lb injectors, 70mm tb, pro m 80mm mass, 1.7 rockers, and I have a ford motorsports SVO intake. Just have to decide on cam and heads... :chug:

[QWKSNKE]

I wouldn't get the rockers until you decided on cam. Gotta make sure everything is compatible

[natedawgg94]

I forgot I had the mm&ff mag. that has the head hunter stuff in it. So think I'm going to go with the gt40X turbo swirl heads since I'm still going to run the stock short block. Also jumping back and forth on the cam between b and e cam. Lee said the b makes good steady power and the e makes better peak. The cobra we got from eric has the b in it and I love the rough idle on it so prob go with it and use my 1.7 rockers. Should I go with the 58cc or 64cc? Also another reason the gt40x are under a grand.... :banana: Is anyone running this setup? Was wondering on hp and torque for this setup..

[QWKSNKE]

if you are planning on adding a blower or turbo down the road you better stay with the 64cc

[natedawgg94]

That's what i was thinking thanks lee

[coupe]

...Also jumping back and forth on the cam between b and e cam...b makes good steady power and the e makes better peak.

I'm telling you: TFS-51402000. Stage 1 hydraulic roller.
$139 in Summit!!!

It will outdo the B and E with 1.6's on it.
Don't mess with the 1.7's.

Also; go with the GT40-Y heads. I've seen them complete for around $700 a pair! With some light cleanup work; they'll flow great.

Your tight budget will thank you. :D

[natedawgg94]

Coupe the only reason I said the b or e cam was I already have some 1.7 rockers and was hoping to get by without buying new rockers.. What's the specs on the tfs cam? I found a place to get the gt40x for 995.00 and by the specs they flow a lot better than the gt40y and the edelbrock rpm heads from what the mm&ff mag. I've got..

[coupe]

Good price on the X heads. They're nicer yes.
As for the TFS cam:
Duration...
221/225º @ .050. Somewhere around 276/281º advertised.
Lift...
.499 Intake .510 exhaust (with 1.6RR)
.530 Intake .542 exhaust (with 1.7RR)

It will work with your 1.7's...I still recommend trading them for 1.6's.

[natedawgg94]

Coupe isn't that to much lift on the stock 302 with stock pistons... Reason I say that is I'm hearing about 520 is all I want to go with stock short block without breaking something...

[coupe]

When installed correctly; I've seen X-303 on stock engines. It's a .542/.542 cam. Always good to check clearance though before firing. :yup:

[95GTMan]

If you already have the 1.7's then I would just stick with something other than the TFS1. Also the crower 15511 is a good came for 94-95's and it will work with your 1.7's, the down side though is it is a $250 cam.

[coupe]

Duration is also a key factor. The TFS only has a 221º intake duration @ .050 lift...the most critical measurement since the intake valve is the biggest.
The B is 224º (?) and the E is 220º.

Get a B-303 as cheap as you can & use the 1.7's...It's a potent setup.

Edit: Ooo! I just remembered...here's a cam Crane makes FOR 1.7 RR's. It has a lift of .513/.529 with 1.7's It's a 276/282 Duration and makes killer power.

It's PN# 444225. :nice:

[natedawgg94]

Been checking prices on what I need and have pretty much decide to just go with the trick flow kit (intake, cam, heads, rockers, and all gaskets) really can't beat it for the price since i need just about everything in the kit anyway.... So I'm going to get my little stuff i need then go for the whole kit :banana:

[95whitevenom]

I have a TFS stage-1 cam still sitting in the box. They are incredible cams with a great idle but for max output should be put in with the addition of the TW heads TFS pushrods,roller rockers,lifters,a valvesprings. Intake is pretty much up to youu. Eddy rpmII is good, or a extrude honed cobra or gt-40 intake would be good as well. when doing all this its a good thing to also change the timing chain and water pump depending upon the mileage.

[natedawgg94]

I've installed new timing chain about 200 miles ago and new water pump about 2000 miles ago. are you buying the kit in pieces since you said you have the tfs cam still in the box? :chug:

[95whitevenom]

yes buying it as money permitts. Right now i have too many parts sitting "in the box" and not on the car right now cause they require more parts to be put on. If i see its gonna be too long before i can afford my heads I may just get new roller rockers and vavlesprings throw in the cam add the juice a TB and LT's get a dyno tune at delk and be done with it.