Few things done to the 93 tonight...

[QWKSNKE]

Brian and I got bored this evening and decided to mess around with the cobra.

[QWKSNKE]

:banana:

[Italian LX]

Definitely can tell there's no longer a motor under the hood.

http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/93swap-00.jpg

[Italian LX]

The Cobra had a slight oil leak. :D




http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/93swap-01.jpg

[Italian LX]

Exhaust port on cylinders 1 thru 7 :



http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/93swap-02.jpg



Exhaust port on cylinder 8 :





http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/93swap-03.jpg

[Italian LX]

Matching numbers. :nice:




http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/vin-block.jpg

[Scothew]

Houston, #8 has a problem.

[EZ SPEED]

Cool Pics !!! Damn oil leak :jester:

[Craig K.]

Nice pictures, should we take bets on what was wrong with #8?

I say it's a bad oil ring

[svopaul]

Nice pictures, should we take bets on what was wrong with #8?

I say it's a bad oil ring

I say it all came about because of the loose nut behind the wheel :jester:

[The Rock 326]

I say it all came about because of the loose nut behind the wheel :jester:
:lol:

[Italian LX]

Nice pictures, should we take bets on what was wrong with #8?

I say it's a bad oil ring
Nope. :nono:

Cracked piston! :yup:

[Italian LX]

Interesting find. . . apparently there was an issue with the head gasket at the #3 cylinder. :huh:

http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/93swap-04.jpg

[Italian LX]

Can you tell which cylinder had the bad piston?


http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/93swap-05.jpg

[Italian LX]

. . . and here's details of the damage:




I guess Lee found the limits of the hyperutectic pistons. ;)



The back of #8 piston:
http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/piston-01.jpg


another shot of the back of #8 piston:
http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/piston-02.jpg


The front of #8 piston:
http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/piston-03.jpg


The bottom of #8 piston:
http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/piston-04.jpg


another shot of the bottom of #8 piston:
http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/piston-05.jpg


What's left of the second compression ring:
http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/piston-06.jpg

[QWKSNKE]

. . . and here's details of the damage:




I guess Lee found the limits of the hyperutectic pistons. ;)



:yup: 14 psi

The next pass would have been a doozy. Glad the bastard broke that night

[Scothew]

No I believe lee found and far surpassed the "normal" limits of the hyper pistons :p

[Italian LX]

Is it normal for a timing chain to stretch this much after only a few thousand miles. :think:


http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/chain.gif

[banditmwp]

No I believe lee found and far surpassed the "normal" limits of the hyper pistons :p
:stupid:

About 75 :nx: launches ago :D

Is it normal for a timing chain to stretch this much after only a few thousand miles. :think:
:eek:

Somehow I don't think so.

[EZ SPEED]

I can crack a piston better than that...I can destroy 5 FORGED pistons all at once ;)


:jester:

[Craig K.]

Nope. :nono:

Cracked piston! :yup:

Damn I lost.

Well Lee for once it was a good thing that your car broke ;)

[Italian LX]

I can crack a piston better than that...I can destroy 5 FORGED pistons all at once ;)


:jester:
That doesn't count in a weedeater motor -- everything's easier to break in those POS engines. :rolleyes:

[QWKSNKE]

That doesn't count in a weedeater motor -- everything's easier to break in those POS engines. :rolleyes:

especially when throwing 18 psi of boost on them ;)

[EZ SPEED]

That doesn't count in a weedeater motor -- everything's easier to break in those POS engines. :rolleyes:

Nope...just the rods. ;) Except for the coveted 03-04 Cobra 4.6 of course...its damn near bullet proof compared to the rest of the mod motors

[FastRedPonyCar]

So lee, what are the plans for the motor? What all are you going to poot in there?

And don't they make chain-less timing gear sets that are more reliable and stronger than the chain?

[QWKSNKE]

So lee, what are the plans for the motor? What all are you going to poot in there?

And don't they make chain-less timing gear sets that are more reliable and stronger than the chain?

Going to bore the .030 over to clean up the #8 cylinder walls and put forged pistons, h-beam rods, and file fit rings

[banditmwp]

I can crack a piston better than that...I can destroy 5 FORGED pistons all at once ;)


:jester:
:werd:

:lookatme:

[Italian LX]

And don't they make chain-less timing gear sets that are more reliable and stronger than the chain?
:yup:

I told him to go to a gear drive the last time he replaced his stretched low-mile chain. ;)

[QWKSNKE]

gear drives are to loud.

I'll have to research some stuff while the machine work is getting done

[95GTMan]

gear drives are to loud.

I'll have to research some stuff while the machine work is getting done

I think you can get some quiet gear drives.

[EZ SPEED]

I think you can get some quiet gear drives.

:yep:

[svopaul]

Is it normal for a timing chain to stretch this much after only a few thousand miles. :think:


http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/chain.gif


Yes...depending on the type/manufacturer of the chain. This is why I like the Rollmaster Billet chains...they don't stretch like the others ;)

That is normal though for most chains...

[svopaul]

Good think you pulled it down when you did....things were about to get ugly! :D

[TheJeanyus]

That doesn't count in a weedeater motor -- everything's easier to break in those POS engines. :rolleyes:
Bet my weedeater could hold more than 14 psi. :D


I guess it's a good thing you took it apart and didn't try to push it any further, Lee. Looks like things were about to get ugly!

[QWKSNKE]

Yes...depending on the type/manufacturer of the chain. This is why I like the Rollmaster Billet chains...they don't stretch like the others ;)

That is normal though for most chains...


That chain cost double what I had been paying. No chain should stretch like that in less than 2k miles.

Bet my weedeater could hold more than 14 psi.

to bad that eaton wouldn't be worth a shit at 14 psi :D

[TheJeanyus]

to bad that eaton wouldn't be worth a shit at 14 psi :D
Wanna line 'em up?


Oh wait, yours is in pieces. :poke: :jester:

[qkjuicedpony]

to bad that eaton wouldn't be worth a shit at 14 psi :D



:ignorant:



:D

[FastRedPonyCar]

gear drives are to loud.

I'll have to research some stuff while the machine work is getting done

Oh and the jet engine under the hood making boost isn't? :poke:

[Italian LX]

Oh and the jet engine under the hood making boost isn't? :poke:
My point exactly! :agree:

[QWKSNKE]

Wanna line 'em up?


Oh wait, yours is in pieces. :poke: :jester:

:shake:

[Craig K.]

So Lee it sounds like your doing the 306?

[QWKSNKE]

probably. just went by the machine shop and got some preliminary cost #'s for machine work. Right now its at $650 for clean, boring, torque plate hone, line hone, and balance.

Now i need to find the best place to buy a steel girdle, oil pan, pistons, and rods.

[Craig K.]

Sounds like a good price for the labor. Are you looking for a Canton pan or something like that?

[banditmwp]

Oh and the jet engine under the hood making boost isn't? :poke:
:rofl: :rofl:

:werd:

[QWKSNKE]

Sounds like a good price for the labor. Are you looking for a Canton pan or something like that?

:yup:

[Sendero]

:yup:

I know Tim sells Moroso pans. What are you looking for, deep sump or road race?

[svopaul]

I've got a hook up on Moroso as well ;)

[NightHawk756]

Did you come up with a Mexican block Lee?? Here's one I found, but it's in Maryland so you would be looking at shipping costs. But I'm not sure if you want to buy a block without personally making a visual inspection anyway. :shrug:

http://classifieds.stangnet.com/showproduct.php?product=12241&sort=1&cat=3&page=3

[QWKSNKE]

I've got a hook up on Moroso as well ;)

Paul,

Do you have a crower, manley, or oliver rod supplier (h-beam)? Also looking for speedpro hellfire file fit rings and CP pistons.

[QWKSNKE]

No Brad. I am not going to worry about the added expense of a mex block right now.

[svopaul]

Paul,

Do you have a crower, manley, or oliver rod supplier (h-beam)? Also looking for speedpro hellfire file fit rings and CP pistons.


I have a number of suppliers....crower and manley yes...also Eagle. I can also get speedpro rings...just got Brad's speedpro file fit rings in today. Send me a note with what you are looking for and I will get prices for you ;)

[Italian LX]

Send me a note with what you are looking for and I will get prices for you ;)
Yeah, kind of like him getting me a price for leather interior for the BMW. :poke:


:D

[banditmwp]

Yeah, kind of like him getting me a price for leather interior for the BMW. :poke:


:D
or kind of like YOU getting me a price on that steering wheel :poke:

[coupe]

:lol: :rofl: that's some funny shit.

[Italian LX]

or kind of like YOU getting me a price on that steering wheel :poke:
I still have to get it back from Paul so I can see if I can make it work for my car first. :P

[NightHawk756]

No Brad. I am not going to worry about the added expense of a mex block right now.
Alrighty then! :jester:

[QWKSNKE]

You know what my machine shop told me today? I was asking if they had any mex blocks laying around and that I would possibly like to use one in the other car. He looked at me and told me that I was an idiot if I swapped to a mex block, he claimed the only thing about the mex block that was good was the caps. Other than that the late model 5.0 block had more webbing, etc and was actually a better block.

[svopaul]

You know what my machine shop told me today? I was asking if they had any mex blocks laying around and that I would possibly like to use one in the other car. He looked at me and told me that I was an idiot if I swapped to a mex block, he claimed the only thing about the mex block that was good was the caps. Other than that the late model 5.0 block had more webbing, etc and was actually a better block.


He has no clue what he is talking about....I've got both sitting here on the floor and even a blind man could tell the difference between the two. If it were me I would find another machine shop....I mean, it makes one wonder what else he might "think" he knows or doesn't....

[svopaul]

Yeah, kind of like him getting me a price for leather interior for the BMW. :poke:


:D

:slap: not everyone was open for business yesterday...and they were one of those :poke:

I called last week and he was going to call me back this week....I should hear something today since it's the first day of the week for them ;)

[93Cobra#2771]

Don't listen to him about the Mexican block - here's a link to some pix of them side by side:

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=23254

Hmmm, methinks it's time to find a new machine shop... :D

Bummer on the piston, but seems like I had guessed a holed piston - do I win anything? :D

[QWKSNKE]

Bummer on the piston, but seems like I had guessed a holed piston - do I win anything? :D

You win a ride in your car's cousin on the next visit to the dragon :D

[93Cobra#2771]

Damn, don't know if that's a good thing or not... :devileek:

[QWKSNKE]

Hopefully it will stay straight :evil:

[NightHawk756]

You know what my machine shop told me today? I was asking if they had any mex blocks laying around and that I would possibly like to use one in the other car. He looked at me and told me that I was an idiot if I swapped to a mex block, he claimed the only thing about the mex block that was good was the caps. Other than that the late model 5.0 block had more webbing, etc and was actually a better block. What the??? I honestly can't believe that a man that runs a machine shop would say that. As Paul said, a blind man could see the difference between the two.:nono:

[Wicked]

What the??? I honestly can't believe that a man that runs a machine shop would say that. As Paul said, a blind man could see the difference between the two.:nono:

:werd:
After looking at the two blocks at Paul's, its obvious. The skirts at the bottom of the bore are twice the thickness, the webbing is thicker and has much smoother radiuses for lower stress concentrations(sharp corners crack easier).

[banditmwp]

Nope. :nono:

Cracked piston! :yup:

I can't believe it hasn't been said yet....


























EL DESTRUCTO STRIKES AGAIN!! :metal:

:jester:

[Italian LX]

EL DESTRUCTO STRIKES AGAIN!! :metal:

:jester:

http://myweb.cableone.net/blombardi/eldestructo.jpg

[TheJeanyus]

:lol:

[QWKSNKE]

:doh:

[NightHawk756]

:werd:
After looking at the two blocks at Paul's, its obvious. The skirts at the bottom of the bore are twice the thickness, the webbing is thicker and has much smoother radiuses for lower stress concentrations(sharp corners crack easier).:yup:

[Italian LX]

:doh:
You've earned it. :nice:

[banditmwp]

You've earned it. :nice:
:werd:

Spastic shifting, 16 psi on a stock 175k mile bottom end... :nono:



:jester:

[EZ SPEED]

:werd:

Spastic shifting, 16 psi on a stock 175k mile bottom end... :nono:



:jester:


Yeah, but you should see the shit he tears up here at work, this is were he REALLY earned the name :jester:

[99LS1]

:lol: :lol:

[FastRedPonyCar]

Yeah, but you should see the shit he tears up here at work, this is were he REALLY earned the name :jester:
:rofl:

[Sendero]

Yeah, but you should see the shit he tears up here at work, this is were he REALLY earned the name :jester:

:rofl: Where's the picture of the captain?

Captain's Orders!