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Got Boost?
04-14-2006, 04:51 PM
should i run 4:10's or 4:30's?

the car wont see the interstate much but probably will once and a while.
also what size tire do you suggest?

mods
-Trickflow engine kit
-24# injectors
-BBK CIA w/ throttle body/MAF
-BBK shorty headers
-BBK O/R X-pipe
-Flowmaster cat-back
-Tremec TKO 500
-SPEC stage 2 clutch
-Dyno tune

QWKSNKE
04-14-2006, 04:59 PM
Is this a 1/4 mile car?

Disney Lincoln
04-14-2006, 05:05 PM
4.30 fo shizzle!

Got Boost?
04-14-2006, 05:56 PM
its a street car but when it is brought to the track it will be running in the 1/4 i do not like 1/8, more more than anything its a street car. 4:30's caught my attention when i saw they were cheaper and heard RPMS arnt that bad

QWKSNKE
04-14-2006, 06:41 PM
Depending on your future power gains, I would go with 3.73's. 4.10's will put you in 5th gear at the 1/4 mile traps.

When my car hooks well I almost run out of gear with the 3.73's

04 Mach1
04-14-2006, 06:52 PM
Agree with QWKSNKE. 4.30s to steep

Got Boost?
04-14-2006, 07:03 PM
imma swap the gear along with my input shaft whenever i decide to get the sc but im asking for a gear with the current mods, what do ya say?

with 4:10's and 26.5 in tires ill still be in the powerband crossing the traps

udloose
04-14-2006, 07:11 PM
I had a set of 4.30s in my car last year when I drove it 250 miles to ffw in atlanta, It got 20 mpg on the interstate, and it ran like hell at the track, I put a set of 3.73s in it so I could spray it all the way down the track....It actually slowed down on the motor with the 3.73s...with the 4.30s in it, at 60mph, it was turning about 3500 rpm down the interstate..

Got Boost?
04-14-2006, 07:13 PM
I had a set of 4.30s in my car last year when I drove it 250 miles to ffw in atlanta, It got 20 mpg on the interstate, and it ran like hell at the track, I put a set of 3.73s in it so I could spray it all the way down the track....It actually slowed down on the motor with the 3.73s...

what kind of RPMS where you turning and what were the major mods?

ncontt
04-14-2006, 08:24 PM
Agree with QWKSNKE. 4.30s to steep


+3

joker
04-14-2006, 11:18 PM
Personally I would go with 3.55's or 3.73's. In my opinion 3.55's are about the perfect gear for a mildly built 5.0

Disney Lincoln
04-15-2006, 12:39 AM
WHAT?!!?? I can't believe what I am hearing!! Have any of you guys ever run a 4.30 gear? It's really not that bad. I have a VERY hard time believing he owuld be out of gear by the 1/4. His mods don't put him at 115 on motor, so I would say he will be crossing the line in the sweet spot.

I ran them in my Mark with the TKO and almost the same combo as him (306, TFS heads, mild .540" lift cam, etc. etc.) and would trap 107-110 on motor at about 5500 in 4th with the 4.30's and about 5900 at 122-124 on the spray.


3.55's are OK for turbo cars!!

1Quik85GT
04-15-2006, 01:36 AM
hmmmm...4,30 gears here...not to steep.......... Go with 4.30 gears

Shorty
04-15-2006, 07:38 AM
hmmmm...4,30 gears here...not to steep.......... Go with 4.30 gears

:think: isnt alot of this decision going to be based on how high RPM he can turn? which isnt going to be no where near what yours is. :shrug: my car isnt even that fast and i cant imagine going with anything steeper than 3:73 for something that sees mostly street duty.

QWKSNKE
04-15-2006, 08:43 AM
WHAT?!!?? I can't believe what I am hearing!! Have any of you guys ever run a 4.30 gear? It's really not that bad. I have a VERY hard time believing he owuld be out of gear by the 1/4. His mods don't put him at 115 on motor, so I would say he will be crossing the line in the sweet spot.



Depending on how good of 60' I have, I run out of gear with the 3.73's when I was on the spray and now with the supercharger.

4.10's in his application would be good but have to come out when the blower goes on.

No I have never ran 4.30's in a pushrod motor. I do know that 4.30's would be great in a 4v cobra

Disney Lincoln
04-15-2006, 09:19 AM
But he doesn't have spray or a charger right now. That's why I vote 4.30's.

Agreed, once the blower goes on, some 3.73's will need to go in.

But until then.... Kick some ass with the deep cogs!!! :lol:

Got Boost?
04-15-2006, 10:07 AM
the reason im not worried abotu a blower gear right now is that is probably 2-3 years away, so i want a sweet gear in this setup that i can really enjoy for those 2 years

udloose
04-15-2006, 10:59 AM
If you're not going to spray it or run a blower or turbo, then I think you will like the 4.30s, cause it will leave like hell....LOL
When the 4.30s were in my car, I turned it 6200rpm in every gear, and it ran through the lights at roughly 6000rpm in 4th gear...it ran 114mph, with a 26x10.5/17 et street...

udloose
04-15-2006, 11:03 AM
oh, i forgot, my mods were 351w fuel injected, windsor jr. heads ported, .566" roller cam, trickflow R intake .

coupe
04-15-2006, 11:32 AM
For HCI street/strip cars:
3.73 to 4.10 for a 5-speed.
4.10 to 4.30 for an auto with a 3k stall converter.

Got Boost?
04-15-2006, 12:02 PM
If you're not going to spray it or run a blower or turbo, then I think you will like the 4.30s, cause it will leave like hell....LOL
When the 4.30s were in my car, I turned it 6200rpm in every gear, and it ran through the lights at roughly 6000rpm in 4th gear...it ran 114mph, with a 26x10.5/17 et street...

what about cruising what kind of rpms did you turn at like 70 and 80?

LeeH
04-17-2006, 09:16 PM
For HCI street/strip cars:
3.73 to 4.10 for a 5-speed.
4.10 to 4.30 for an auto with a 3k stall converter.
:agree:
I base everything off a complex chart I have come up with, I will share it with you;)

Underpowered cars need more gear(at least 3.73), Heavy underpowered cars need even more gear(at least 4.10), Heavy underpowered AOD cars need way more gear(at least 4.30s). Gears are the single best improvement you can make!

For pushrod powered SN cars please substitute the phrase "gutless pigs" for the word cars and choose the next lowest gear ratio available as opposed to the ones listed for said application.

Dale McPeters
04-28-2006, 09:58 PM
:agree:
I base everything off a complex chart I have come up with, I will share it with you;)

Underpowered cars need more gear(at least 3.73), Heavy underpowered cars need even more gear(at least 4.10), Heavy underpowered AOD cars need way more gear(at least 4.30s). Gears are the single best improvement you can make!

For pushrod powered SN cars please substitute the phrase "gutless pigs" for the word cars and choose the next lowest gear ratio available as opposed to the ones listed for said application.

:lol: ...... I remember a "gutless pig" when it was not running correctly....:jester:

LeeH
04-28-2006, 11:19 PM
:lol: ...... I remember a "gutless pig" when it was not running correctly....:jester:

LOL, Yep it couldnt get out of its own way without stalling:jester:

Still dont know about the Capri yet, Hes still thinking about it. Its an 84RS, It would have been nice if it had been an 83 Black Magic.

Craig K.
04-29-2006, 11:36 AM
I ran 4.10's in the '85 for years, I can't remember freeway cruising RPM's but I ran the car at 70MPH from Chicago to Daytona and got around 22 MPG (Carb car).
I ran a 26" tall tire in the 1/4 and would be just under 6000 at the line, it was great for that.

M1Speed
04-29-2006, 03:48 PM
4:30's

ERStettin
04-30-2006, 10:47 AM
should i run 4:10's or 4:30's?

the car wont see the interstate much but probably will once and a while.
also what size tire do you suggest?

mods
-Trickflow engine kit
-24# injectors
-BBK CIA w/ throttle body/MAF
-BBK shorty headers
-BBK O/R X-pipe
-Flowmaster cat-back
-Tremec TKO 500
-SPEC stage 2 clutch
-Dyno tune


4.30's and 26 inch MT ET Drags. Drive it like you hate it.

I am running 4.88's and 28 inch MT ET Drags and love it. Don't fear the gear, you will just be putting them in later. Might as well do it right now and be done with it. 4.30's are easy for a TKO setup like yours.

Dale McPeters
04-30-2006, 03:59 PM
LOL, Yep it couldnt get out of its own way without stalling:jester:

Still dont know about the Capri yet, Hes still thinking about it. Its an 84RS, It would have been nice if it had been an 83 Black Magic.

LeeH,
Give me a call on my cell phone when you find out.
I am very busy as always.........:jester:


By the way Gotboost 4:30 gears...;)

qkjuicedpony
04-30-2006, 07:08 PM
having had a million sets of gears....in my 5 speed N/A car i loved it when it had the 4.30's i drove it everywhere.....so my vote for your combo is the 4.30's