Power Levels and Swap Questions

[Sendero]

After some seat time in Lee's SVO, I've contemplated the idea of a SVO as a (road) track car. What kind of HP/Torque numbers can you obtain without going radical and reducing reliability.

89-93 2.3L Fox Bodies, how hard would it be to swap the SVO Engine (with all the supporting electronics)? Can I use the harness out of the newer body along with a Turbo T'bird coupe? I understand that the drivetrain would be a little bit different, but keep in mind that most of the stuff would be swapped out anyway.

[coupe]

You'll be well into a nice SVO by the time you get a swap into a "regular" stang. I wouldn't bother with it. But many people try.

I know two guys in B'ham area who each have SVO's one is an '84 with all '86 updates; he's owned it since new. The other is an '86.

Both of the cars have T3/T4 turbo, front-mount ic, exhaust, fuel pump, A237 (FRPP) cam, and supporting hardware. At blakes, they lay down right around 300 to the tires. I've seen them go low 13's...perfectly streetable too.

The SVOCA is having a dyno day at Walker Dynotune in two weeks (Fri Sept. 1st):

List of participants (http://www.svoca.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10991)

and

Dyno-day info (http://www.svoca.com/mainframe.html?http://www.svoca.com/events/reunion06/dyno.htm)

[QWKSNKE]

There is a 86 SVO on street car forums for 3800 obo. I believe the guy is in alabama too

http://www.streetcarforums.com/showthread.php?t=60494&highlight=svo

[SvoBrown]

http://projecthp.ford23.com/
This guy has done alot of stuff with mustangs and even sells some parts as bolt on. Has a few writeup on how to and what he has done with very little money involed. There are lots of 2.3 swaps on google with even more info.
I tried to find the one on 140cilx that was done a few years ago. It is a road race/daily driver mustang lx. He was on a very tight budget also.
http://projecthp.ford23.com/TechMain.html
Good info
http://www.geocities.com/schlodessssu/steves84.htm
This sucker know some stuff.

[rtusnake]

Thats where I am getting all my info from. Going to do a turbo swap into my 93 from a 85 merkur. I like the svo's but they just don't look as good as a newer fox lx to me.

[SvoBrown]

You'll be well into a nice SVO by the time you get a swap into a "regular" stang.
The SVOCA is having a dyno day at Walker Dynotune in two weeks (Fri Sept. 1st):

List of participants (http://www.svoca.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10991)

and

Dyno-day info (http://www.svoca.com/mainframe.html?http://www.svoca.com/events/reunion06/dyno.htm)

Coupe, you going t be there?

Any Stang people going to be there? More than welcome to show up and watch some 20 year old cars blow some oil out the dip stick. Very fun group to hang with.

When I get my A/F fixed I will drive mine all the time. Still rich in the lower rpms when starting boost. Other than that it's a good drive with the Ebach springs and 250 hp at 16 psi. Still get 22 mpg running rich as crap.

Some svo's have over 150k on the stock engine. Still you have to like the look to want the car.

[coupe]

I think the SVO and '93 Cobra are the best looking Foxes.

Regardless, I won't make the SVOCA dyno day because I have to work :(
I'll probably make the MCA show and SVO reunion either Sat. or Sun for some time.

[CrimsonGT]

hey kerry,
cool websites
I'm getting done with the body work on my 88 lx but I will need to find a hood soon to get it all back together for paint.
I have been reading up on the 2.3 turbos and i'm very interested in doing the swap
I'll pm you when I'm ready for you to come look at my car

[QWKSNKE]

So are the Cummins Diesel turbos and the stinger headers worth the hassle or would a simple t3/t4 hybrid upgrade be equvalent? Which is more cost effective?

[SvoBrown]

So are the Cummins Diesel turbos and the stinger headers worth the hassle or would a simple t3/t4 hybrid upgrade be equvalent? Which is more cost effective?

Stock location is the simple way to go. New oil line and then exhaust and intercooler piping. If you have lots of extra time and a cheap turbo off a cummins then that is a good route.

Time verse money on that question.

Coupe! How much does a rebuilt t3t4 with some added bells go for???

[coupe]

Here's some pricing for you guys on here...and remember, 1-year warranty...as long as you get new oil-feed line and have adequate supply.

Here's the specs:

360º thrust bearing (stock is 270º), billet sealplate, SVO turbine housing, any T3 turbine wheel, any T4 compressor wheel all new...

$600.

Would be less if you can provide a good core turbo (I'll be the judge of that). You may find cheaper turbos out there, but they are probably not Garrett parts, nor would you ever get service after the sale or warranty help. We're not officially in business, but we vowed to do SVO's and GN's whenever the need arises.

I recommend the Stage 2 turbine wheel with a 50 trim for a nice street setup...great spool and up around 400 potential.

Go with Stage 3 turbine and 57 or 60 trim compressor wheel for up near 500 capacity. I run a Stage 3, 57 trim...T04E. It's a bit laggy, but I have a stock head & intercooler and crappy exhaust. :nono:

[Sendero]

400 or 500, you mean Horsepower right?

[SvoBrown]

I got a t3t4 and the temp out of the turbo at 22 psi is about 214* My IC will bring it down to 123* on a 85* day. Not the best setup but working OK for now. Spools quick when I'm not rich on the bottom side of the rpms. (Dale)

I'll be going bigger on the next one wanting 400+ hp. Send me a price when you get ready coupe. My rpm range will be 3500 to 7000 Thats where my gearing will be set at. Road and drag it.

[coupe]

Horsepower. It's based on what those compressors move...airflow wise.

I have an idea for a lower-boost higher flow compressor for these cars, I just have to build it and test it.

Kerry, go with either of the above turbos. You'll like their characteristics.
I already have your core anyways. I'll get you a price soon.

[SlowJoe]

I had the he351 holset on a stinger header the first few weeks of life.The he351 is the same as a hy35.It took a quick dump.Then i got a new hx35 and put on it with a chip by stinger and 46 pd injectors.Street driveing sucked.The he351 spooled fast compared the the hx35.But above 4000 rpms it would pin u in the seat.It went 8.19 at 20 psi with ranger roller cam.This was a 87 tbird with everything in it back seat and all.When i build another one and i will it will have a he351 and bobs center mount header.


Hey svobrown what will u take for a good head?

[SvoBrown]

Hey svobrown what will u take for a good head?


Cylinder head. Make sure everyone knows what your talking about,
send me a pm when you have time.

[Sendero]

I have an idea for a lower-boost higher flow compressor for these cars, I just have to build it and test it.


That was going to be my next question. ;)

[SlowJoe]

lmao.

[QWKSNKE]

Cylinder head. Make sure everyone knows what your talking about,
send me a pm when you have time.

:rofl: