PWT V6.9 -- Power Plant

[Italian LX]

Well, it took me two years of saving money and buying parts, but I finally got the 418 long block complete.



January 2005:

http://myweb.cableone.net/blombardi/351-02.jpg






January 2007:

http://myweb.cableone.net/blombardi/418.jpg



Looks like Project White Trash may be getting a transplant soon. :evil:

[TheJeanyus]

:metal:

Are you sure that was '03? I didn't join the old board until 2004, and it seems lik I remember when you bought that motor. :think:

[Crzypny]

NICE! :drool:

Congrats on the completion :nice:

[Italian LX]

:Are you sure that was '03? I didn't join the old board until 2004, and it seems lik I remember when you bought that motor. :think:
Hmmm, it may have been only two years ago. Maybe it just seems like it's been that long since I had been tripping over that block in my carport for so long. :D


EDIT: I checked back on some old threads and found that it was Jan '05 that I got the motor. (I guess I'm getting forgetful in my old-age. :D)

[mustang1549]

Hmmm, it may have been only two years ago. Maybe it just seems like it's been that long since I had been tripping over that block in my carport for so long. :D
.
dosent look like a carport to me...more like you living room. :poke:

got a nice looking set up. good luck with it.

[1sicklx]

:drool: NICE

[CrimsonRacing]

will that engine make it's debut at Atlanta??????????




I know how you feel about saving money for 2 years and buying parts Brian.....HELL........I've had my Typhoon for over a year now,but it's gonna be installed real soon........







:metal:

[Italian LX]

will that engine make it's debut at Atlanta??????????
It will if I can ever get my stupid headers. :rolleyes:

I should have it in with plenty of time to tune it before April. However, it will be making an N/A debut since nitrous would surely put it well beyond the legal limit for a roll bar.

[qkjuicedpony]

looks good.hard to believe that old stock balancer you gave me off that motor is still in perfetc working condition on a mud truck :D


what headers did you go with?

[Italian LX]

looks good.hard to believe that old stock balancer you gave me off that motor is still in perfetc working condition on a mud truck :D
:lol:
I almost forgot about that.

what headers did you go with?
I just went with ceramic-coated MAC 1.75" long-tubes. I know it will likely be a restriction in the upper RPM, but right now I'm really looking for the motor to shine in the lower RPM range. Besides, I really didn't have $1200 to spend on a set of 2" headers right now. Maybe once I get at least my fuel system upgraded and cage installed, then I may work on bettering the exhaust.

[qkjuicedpony]

1 3/4 should be fine for it for now.

[myillwillinc]

looks awesome man...

[QWKSNKE]

dosent look like a carport to me...more like you living room. :poke:



:lol:

:werd:

[89 Hoss]

I hear you super stang, easy on the living room, I love the decor of the house. If my wife would stand it I would like to have tranny in my kitchen also. Nice work Brian:wall96:

[89five0Gt]

that motor looks real nice. look forward to seeing it run at commerce :nice:

[mustang1549]

im hoping i can make FFW this yr.

[TheJeanyus]

Have you gotten a cowl hood to fit over that thing?

I pity the guy who has to match the "paint". :jester:

[rtusnake]

What type of cage are you going to put in? Are you doing it yourself?

[97cobrasvt]

looks sweet nice job

[EZ SPEED]

Looks Great Brian !!
Lee showed me a spy photo of it the other day :jester:

[Italian LX]

Have you gotten a cowl hood to fit over that thing?
Not yet. I was going to get a 3", but after throwing the upper on top of the nitrous plate, I'm kind of afraid that I may have to go bigger. :huh:

I'll probably get the motor dropped in this weekend and take a measurement and order the hood on Monday.

[Italian LX]

What type of cage are you going to put in? Are you doing it yourself?
No, I won't be putting the cage in myself. Most likely I will remove all the interior and take it someplace to have it installed and then put the interior back myself.

[TheJeanyus]

Not yet. I was going to get a 3", but after throwing the upper on top of the nitrous plate, I'm kind of afraid that I may have to go bigger. :huh:
:huh: It does look really tall. Atleast it'll have the balls to back up the tall hood. :burnout:

[ChipR4cam]

Just cut a hole in the stock hood.:D


I can't wait for that thing to fire up.:drool:

[rtusnake]

Just cut a hole in the stock hood.:D


I can't wait for that thing to fire up.:drool:

Werd, need a video of this for all to see :banana:

[94five0]

nice setup, brian.. things gonna be a monster

[93Cobra#2771]

Wow, that looks great!

Are you sure on the height issues/hood clearance. I know there are some guys on the corral running a stock hood with a 351w, believe it or not. Some type of dropped motor mounts, I believe.

I would think you could get it all under a 3" cowl, course I don't know what type of upper intake you are running...

[Italian LX]

Are you sure on the height issues/hood clearance. I know there are some guys on the corral running a stock hood with a 351w, believe it or not. Some type of dropped motor mounts, I believe.

I would think you could get it all under a 3" cowl, course I don't know what type of upper intake you are running...
The only drop mounts I could find are all solid -- since mine is mostly a street car, I didn't want to go that route. Also, my 7-quart Canton pan will not allow for drop-mounts. Lee is running the same type pan on his 306 and we actually had to place shims under the stock motor mounts to keep the pan off of the steering rack/K-member. On top of that, I have offset rack bushings which may cause me even more clearance issues on the bottom. The bottom line is, my motor is not going to be able to drop any lower. :D

Another thing to remember is that I have a nitrous plate which adds another 3/4" to the height of an already tall intake.

[coupe]

Okay, care to give us the specs on it again? What camshaft did you go with? I'm anxious to see the numbers. :nice:

[Italian LX]

Okay, care to give us the specs on it again?
Big stroke. :D
What camshaft did you go with?
Small lift. :D
I'm anxious to see the numbers. :nice:
Me too. :D

[Scothew]

That thing looks like a monster brian!!!! Congrats!

[coupe]

Big stroke. :D
Small lift. :D
Me too. :D

:shrug: pick-up lines. :nono:

[ChipR4cam]

:shrug: pick-up lines. :nono:

:lol:

[QWKSNKE]

Small lift. :D



that describes you perfectly


:D

[Scothew]

Brian, once you get the car up and running with the new plant, definitely keep me updated as to when you may be coming over to walkers to dyno. I want to come see this thing in person.

[Italian LX]

Brian, once you get the car up and running with the new plant, definitely keep me updated as to when you may be coming over to walkers to dyno. I want to come see this thing in person.
http://alabamaracingscene.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33868

;)

[Scothew]

Cool. What time are you going or is that to far in advance :p

[Italian LX]

Cool. What time are you going or is that to far in advance :p
Not only is it too far in advance, but there are no set slots. If you're looking to see a particular car, you'll probably have to hang out all day.

I'll let you know if I have an idea of what time when the date gets closer.

[Greg03Cobra]

damn brian that is saweet. i can't wait to see the car running again.

[coupe]

How 'bout an official "Guess how much will it make?" thread? :shrug:

[ChipR4cam]

damn brian that is saweet. i can't wait to see the car running again.

I don't think you want to see it running with the kit. Wont be the man to beat anymore.:D

[96GTS]

Looks great dude:metal: Congrats on finishing it up.:fro:

[Craig K.]

Looks great Brian, congrats on finaly, well almost, getting this project done.

[CrimsonRacing]

That is a mighty FINE looking powerplant...............





:metal:

[CrazyInBlack]

Congrats Brian, glad to see it all come together

[NightHawk756]

Not sure how I missed this but.........it looks great Brian!

Congrats!! :chug:

[Italian LX]

Pretty headers. :bling:



http://myweb.cableone.net/blombardi/418-02.jpg

[TheJeanyus]

Those look good! :nice:

[89 Hoss]

sweet

[1sicklx]

sweet

:werd:

[Italian LX]

I would think you could get it all under a 3" cowl, course I don't know what type of upper intake you are running...
:hmm:



http://myweb.cableone.net/blombardi/418-hood-01.jpg



http://myweb.cableone.net/blombardi/418-hood-02.jpg


:D

[89 Hoss]

Stang on Roids, man what a motor. Good job Brian!!!!!!

[CrazyInBlack]

here comes the saw-zaw

[coupe]

Yea...That little 4-cyl. coupe has definitely grown up!

Looks terrific! :nice:

[mustang1549]

wow...

[Dale McPeters]

Looks good Brian....now you need to come out to the desert
and install the new low lash solid roller and valve train in my
418 since you have some experience with them now.......:unsure:

[ncontt]

holy crap...that's awesome, HOOD? we don't need no stinkin hood :)

[Craig K.]

Hey, it's Alabama, just run with out a hood......

Are you hoping to fire it up today???

[Italian LX]

Are you hoping to fire it up today???
Probably not. I still have to put the trany back in and some small stuff around the engine bay is lacking; radiator, throttle cable, heater hoses, vacuum lines off the intake, etc. Also, I needed to order another mid-pipe so it would have to fire up with open headers. :evil:

I'll probably take it easy today. If I do anything, it will likely be just to install my new instrument guage cluster.

[NightHawk756]

Ahhhh, it won't be the first time that neighbors in Alabama had to endure an open header first crankin'!! :D

Lookin' good mang! I know your getting anxious. :chug:

[qkjuicedpony]

you gonna need a 4" hood man...looks killer

[1sicklx]

:metal:

[ChipR4cam]

Oh yeah!:bangnana: Call me when you're gonna fire that thing up. I want to be there.:yup:

[rtusnake]

Your intake appears to be prairie dogging.

[ncontt]

Your intake appears to be prairie dogging.

:lol:

[Italian LX]

Oh yeah!:bangnana: Call me when you're gonna fire that thing up. I want to be there.:yup:
If I fire it up open-headers, you'll probably hear it from your house. ;)

[ChipR4cam]

If I fire it up open-headers, you'll probably hear it from your house. ;)

Ha ha ha, no kiddin'.

[Greg03Cobra]

damn brian i want to hear that car & ride in it lol

[lukem80]

just found this thread.. man this is a sweet setup!!!!

[Wickd GT]

Hey Brian, once you get the car all ready, make shure you get a real man's tire, meaning a 28x10.5 slick or a Quick time Pro 28x11.5. Not that girly 26" et street, LOL...



Edgar

[ChipR4cam]

I think you need to post a video.:yup:

[Italian LX]

I think you need to post a video.:yup:
Hmmm, I wish you had mentioned that last night. I would have had you film it when I cranked it up.

. . . not sure how many more of those I'll get away with before my neighbors start to complain. :huh:

[Scothew]

Well describe the sound since you didnt film it.

[Italian LX]

Well describe the sound since you didnt film it.
Very loud. . . :shrug:

[NightHawk756]

vroom, vroom........:D

[Italian LX]

vroom, vroom........:D
:lol:

. . . and at idle it sounded like, "Jo mama, jo mama, jo mama, jo mama. . . "

:D

[Scothew]

:lol: yup, those were the descriptions I expected :p

[QWKSNKE]

:lol:

. . . and at idle it sounded like, "Jo mama, jo mama, jo mama, jo mama. . . "

:D

:rofl:

[1sicklx]

"jo mama, jo mama"

:lol:

[ChipR4cam]

It was more like Jo Mammamamammamamaaa Jo mmaamaaamammaaamaa. And then he revved it up and blew a car over.

[Italian LX]

...And then he revved it up and blew a car over.
:rofl:


Sorry, Greg. :huh:

[TheJeanyus]

It was more like Jo Mammamamammamamaaa Jo mmaamaaamammaaamaa. And then he revved it up and blew a car over.
:rofl:

[NightHawk756]

:lol:

. . . and at idle it sounded like, "Jo mama, jo mama, jo mama, jo mama. . . "

:D

:rofl: :rofl:

[mustang1549]

:lol:

[BIGPHIL93GT]

what kinda power that bullet got

[Italian LX]

what kinda power that bullet got
Not sure yet. I fired it up for the first time this weekend, but an exhaust issue is keeping me from running anything but open headers. Untill I get it sorted out, I won't be driving it much.

I should have it completely broken in and dynoed sometime in March.

[SthrnDaizey]

Uhhhhhhhhh.......WOW!

[96GTS]

I'm not on much anymore. Do you have PWT's chassis set up for that motor. It might have just a tad more TQ than the original 4cyl:meth:

[Italian LX]

I'm not on much anymore. Do you have PWT's chassis set up for that motor. It might have just a tad more TQ than the original 4cyl:meth:
Actually, my previous torque with the juice was 535to the wheels, so the chassis is definitely used to it.

All I have right now is subframe connectors. I don't plan on doing any clutch drops until I get a 10-point in it and reinforce the torque boxes (which will hopefully be later this year).

As a matter of fact, I plan on only running drag radials on the car until then and probably only spraying the motor on the dyno.

[myillwillinc]

i want to see how it spins the dyno.... make it a dyno day and i might be done with mine so i can do the same..

[Italian LX]

i want to see how it spins the dyno.... make it a dyno day and i might be done with mine so i can do the same..
I'm scheduled to dyno on March 24th for the Horsepower for Charity thing that ARS has scheduled.

http://alabamaracingscene.net/forum/showthread.php?t=33868

[Wicked]

Looks great Brian. That car will look sick with the big hood.

[ChipR4cam]

Ok, it's time for a video Brian. Do it now!!!!:yup:

[Italian LX]

Ok, it's time for a video Brian. Do it now!!!!:yup:
Maybe I'll get a clip tomorrow.

[ChipR4cam]

Ok, Brian where's the video?:brick:

[Italian LX]

Ok, Brian where's the video?:brick:
Sorry, the one I took the other day at your house didn't come out. I used Alexis' camera and didn't realize I had my finger over the microphone. The exhaust was all muffled, so I'll have to do another one. :huh:

[QWKSNKE]

I swear that car sounds better now than it did with the borlas on it

[Italian LX]

I swear that car sounds better now than it did with the borlas on it
Wow, you really think so? To me, it sounds worse inside the car.

I guess I'll have to let you drive it so I can hear what it sounds like outside the car. ;)

[Wall96cobra]

I swear that car sounds better now than it did with the borlas on it


What exhaust is on it now?

[QWKSNKE]

Wow, you really think so? To me, it sounds worse inside the car.

I guess I'll have to let you drive it so I can hear what it sounds like outside the car. ;)

I am sure that it is louder, but I like the 'outside' sound

[QWKSNKE]

What exhaust is on it now?

3" flowpaths

[CrazyInBlack]

I guess I'll have to let you drive it so I can hear what it sounds like outside the car. ;)

i dont think anyone would turn that down :metal:

[Italian LX]

What exhaust is on it now?
BBK 1-3/4" long-tubes, stainless 3" VRS X-pipe, 3" MAC Cat-back w/ 3" tailpipes.

[coupe]

Wasn't the header a MAC at first? Did they not fix the misalignment issue?

[Italian LX]

Wasn't the header a MAC at first? Did they not fix the misalignment issue?
Not yet. I still have to send them back. I ended up going with a different manufacturer. The way I saw it, MAC is all the way in California, and by the time I sent them back and they dicked around with them and then sent them back to me, it would be the middle of March. . . earliest.

I decide that I need to get this thing rolling in order to have it fully ready for FFW, so I just bought some BBK's and a new X-pipe and went with it -- they fit like a glove.

Maybe if MAC hadn't been screwing around with me for over two weeks already, I would've been more apt to give them a chance. I guess they just lost a former happy customer. Oh well.

[Wall96cobra]

BBK 1-3/4" long-tubes, stainless 3" VRS X-pipe, 3" MAC Cat-back w/ 3" tailpipes.

What made you go with the MACs instead of the borlas?

[Italian LX]

What made you go with the MACs instead of the borlas?
It's only temporary.

I got the 3" cat-back with chrome tips from a guy on the ARS forums for $100 used (and in really good shape). I actually bought it for everything but the mufflers. I plan on doing the same thing I did with my 2.5" MAC cat-back... cut the flowpaths out and put Borla Pro XS mufflers in their place.

For now, I just put the complete cat-back in there until I buy some 3" Pro XS mufflers.

[ChipR4cam]

Ok Brian, where's the stinkin' video?:D

[Italian LX]

Ok Brian, where's the stinkin' video?:D
Still no video yet. . .


. . . but I do have pics of my new throttle body compared to my old 70mm and the original stock unit.







http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/tb-01.jpg






http://www.deepstageperformance.com/pics/tb-02.jpg

[04 Mach1]

Hell ya:metal:

[QWKSNKE]

Great comparison pics of a 58mm, 70mm, and a 90mm :nice:

[Italian LX]

Great comparison pics of a 55mm, 70mm, and a 95mm :nice:
Actually the stock one is a 58mm and my new one is a 90mm.

[CrazyInBlack]

Damn that thing should move some air, how much difference did the 70 make on your motor?

[Italian LX]

Damn that thing should move some air, how much difference did the 70 make on your motor?
I don't know how much it gained by itself, but the intake and TB netted something like 32rwhp. But that was after a head/cam swap had already been done previously.

[CrazyInBlack]

gocha

[QWKSNKE]

Brian will be posting some pretty good dyno #'s today ;)

[mustang1549]

:yup: not bad for PWT

[Italian LX]

Brian will be posting some pretty good dyno #'s today ;)
410rwhp / 459rwtq

:banana:

[CrazyInBlack]

WoW :eek:

[04 Mach1]

Sweet

[1sicklx]

:metal:

[QWKSNKE]

Are you not going to post the 'good' numbers?


:D

[qkjuicedpony]

not too shabby.what did it make on the gas?

[Italian LX]

It pretty much overpowered the Centerforce clutch (which I expected), so it didn't really give any good numbers. Especially since the peak torque reading was near the end of the pull around 4800rpm -- and everyone that knows nitrous, the peak torque is at the beginning up the hit.

Anyway, the current numbers on the juice is 589rwhp / 611rwtq :nx:

[Skillet]

Third highest pull of the day!

[TheJeanyus]

It pretty much overpowered the Centerforce clutch (which I expected), so it didn't really give any good numbers. Especially since the peak torque reading was near the end of the pull around 4800rpm -- and everyone that knows nitrous, the peak torque is at the beginning up the hit.

Anyway, the current numbers on the juice is 589rwhp / 611rwtq :nx:
Man, when are you gonna quit playing around with that POS and get something that makes real power. :shake:




:jester: That car is incredible! :hail: :hail: :hail:

[Craig K.]

Sounds like you need to get a new clutch

Good numbers!

[96GTS]

Hell yeah!!:metal: :metal: What shot are you using right now?

[Italian LX]

Hell yeah!!:metal: :metal: What shot are you using right now?
That was with the 200 pills.

[Italian LX]

Sounds like you need to get a new clutch.
Well, I don't plan on really using the nitrous much until I get a cage installed, so I'll be fine with the current clutch until then.

I'm sure when the time comes, I'll step up to a SPEC stage-3.

[NightHawk756]

Nice numbers Brian!! Congrats!!:chug: