Starting Problem!HELP

[oo-gonzo]

I have an 87 GT (None MAS air). I just got it and no only that it had a 90 model engine put in it. The Trans was also rebuilt. Odom shows 162K. Engine supposedly had 126K on it.
What it's doing: Usually cranks right up on second try. Then it started doing this: Turn the ignition over, engine turns over but doesn't crank. Try it again and the engine starts and dies immediatly. After that you can turn the ignition switch all day and get nothing. No clicking, buzzing, just dead silence.
What I have tried: Itried jumping the starter solenoid with a screw driver. Engine turned over a few times and finally cranked. Good thing cause I was stranded at the gym. SO, I went and bought a new solenoid. Put it on and tried it. The engine turned over but would not crank. The next try was dead. Turn the switch and get nothing. Tried jumping the solenoid again and the engine just turns and turns but will not crank.
The battery is fine as well as the connections. I do not know where to go from here. HELP!

[EHardy1971]

can you hear if the fuel pump is kicking on?

[SkurdalenFox]

What do you mean by, "turns over but doesn't crank"

Do you loose all power - dome light, radio, everything - after you try to start it the first time?

[89five0Gt]

can you hear if the fuel pump is kicking on?

:werd: mine was acting that way last year. when it did turn over, it was skipping. you could hear my fuel pump kick on, but it sounded weak. i put a new one in and its been fine every since

[EHardy1971]

just remembered something,they had a factory recall on the 89's for the ignition switch,NOT the ignition lock (the part your key goes to),and when my coupe still had the 2.3,it started the same shit!,I had to literally stop on the road one night,pull the steering column collar off,wad up a handfull of napkins,put them in the collar under the connector and screw it back together,because the connector on the switch was loose,and not making a good connection!,call ford with your VIN,and see if the recall repair was ever done!

[QWKSNKE]

Can you smell fuel if you continue turning the motor over?

[natedawgg94]

i agree with the recall sounds like ignition switch to me

[oo-gonzo]

I can't smell any fuel. I think I hear the fuel pump, but not real sure. I don't lose power on anything, dome light works, door bell dings, ect.. It's like the switch just doesn't work, but it does every now and then. If it's just the switch, wouldn't it still start by jumping the solenoid? Could it be the switch and the fuel pump?

[oo-gonzo]

What I meant by turning over is- the engine is turning but will not run. You know, it's trying to crank, but won't.

[EHardy1971]

the fuel pump relay is wired through the ignition switch in the column,the dome light,and door dinger are wired through the fuse box straight to the battery,I.E; constant power,with that switch recall problem I had with mine,it was identical!,only one side of the plug on the switch was making contact

[89five0Gt]

just remembered something,they had a factory recall on the 89's for the ignition switch,NOT the ignition lock (the part your key goes to),and when my coupe still had the 2.3,it started the same shit!,I had to literally stop on the road one night,pull the steering column collar off,wad up a handfull of napkins,put them in the collar under the connector and screw it back together,because the connector on the switch was loose,and not making a good connection!,call ford with your VIN,and see if the recall repair was ever done!

Eric, gonzo's car is a 87. was the recall for 87-89 or just 89 ??:popcorn:

[EHardy1971]

Eric, gonzo's car is a 87. was the recall for 87-89 or just 89 ??:popcorn:
here we go.....


Campaign Number: 96V071000 - FORD MUSTANG
Manufacturer Campaign Number:
Manufacture Start Date: 1987AUG
Manufacture End Date: 1993JUL
Number Of Potentially Affected Cars: 7900000

Vehicle System: SYSTEM: ELECTRICAL; IGNITION SWITCH.
Problem Summary:
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER AND MULTI-PURPOSE VEHICLES AND LIGHT DUTY TRUCKS.
THE IGNITION SWITCH COULD EXPERIENCE AN INTERNAL SHORT CIRCUIT
Consequences: THIS CONDITION COULD CAUSE OVERHEATING, SMOKE, AND POSSIBLY FIRE IN THE STEERING COLUMN AREA OF THE VEHICLE. DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE IGNITION SWITCH.
NOTE: OWNERS WHO TAKE THEIR VEHICLES TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON AN AGREED UPON SERVICE DATE AND DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME, SHOULD CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673. ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-800-424-9393.
(960607)

[04 Mach1]

Have you changed the fuel filter?

[oo-gonzo]

Tow truck hauled it off today. To the shop to get straightened out. Hope it doesn't cost a lot to fix. Anybody want to buy it? LOL

[Italian LX]

Eric, gonzo's car is a 87. was the recall for 87-89 or just 89 ??:popcorn:
My '88 was flagged for the recall. Also, I'm pretty sure John Bleakley did the recall on my '91 when I had it in for suspension work back in 1995. :shrug:

[EHardy1971]

Manufacture Start Date: 1987AUG
Manufacture End Date: 1993JUL

you can also go to ford's website,and type in your VIN to see if any recalls have been fixed

[89five0Gt]

Manufacture Start Date: 1987AUG
Manufacture End Date: 1993JUL

you can also go to ford's website,and type in your VIN to see if any recalls have been fixed

:hmm: I may need to check this out on mine. I doubt it has ever been fixed

[waypastcrazy]

I have had this problem on 3 different mustangs a 87 90 and 91 all 3 times it was the electrical part of ignition switch.

[EHardy1971]

:hmm: I may need to check this out on mine. I doubt it has ever been fixed

you might want to Geoffrey,I need to check and see if the convertible has been fixed too!:think:

[tayzoid1]

if your fuel pump is bad i have one at the house ill sell ill have to check w/ oreaily to see how much and ill cut it in half if its like 20 bucks then ill have to save it and put on my car

[oo-gonzo]

Thanks. Taylor! I will call if it is needed.