Still Glowing - Page 7

04 Mach1 · 04-08-2007, 11:02 PM

TDC has been established different block and heads have been swap out. Cam has been degree only to find it was a degree off heads have a fresh valve job. At the dyno yesterday with the wideband every thing was going right until you hold throttle at a steady rpm or you try WOT. Even with 80 psi of fuel preasure it would go rich for a split second then go lean. The A/F was 13.2 no matter were the FP was at (42-80). Has a brand new walbro 349(forced induction).Have run new fuel lines from the tank foward and swap a known FP regulator. Has a new 95mm MAF. Have swap in a different set of headers just to make sure the long tubes weren't thin causing the glow.

What does the ecm have to see to go into WOT? At WOT it is basically being run off of the TPS, MAF and what else?

QWKSNKE · 04-09-2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Italian LX

Actually, I'm pretty sure he threw a stock block in there too and it still was glowing the headers.

So the current combo is a completely different block?

Italian LX · 04-09-2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

So the current combo is a completely different block?

I think he has the original block in it now, but at one time (a few weeks ago) he dropped a different short block in there.

EZ SPEED · 04-09-2007, 06:43 AM

That thing is freaky

CrazyInBlack · 04-09-2007, 08:30 AM

with all that has been changed this is freaky

qkjuicedpony · 04-09-2007, 08:58 PM

are your injectors known to be good and actually what they are said to be?????

04 Mach1 · 04-09-2007, 10:43 PM

Yes I have confirmed these to be 50lbs injectors. I have also swapped in a set of 19, 24, 42 and has done the exact same thing. It will do the same with or without the S/C belt.

PonyChick · 04-10-2007, 03:58 AM

Okay this may be far fetched or because of all the parts swaps that you've done it may be ruled out but I felt it was worth a mention.

Completely random but I had a customer come in tonight for an Idle Air Control Valve (motor) and was talking about having a fox 302 that he had gotten an aftermarket IAC for at the parts house. After a short time of it being on the car he kept getting glowing headers. After checking all kinds of things on the car it ended up the aftermarket IAC valve had an extra spot that let in air. It was the correct aftermarket IAC valve just not made exactly OE. He put an OE dealer part back on the car and no more glowing headers. It was getting too much air.

It may not be the particular part but it could give you another area to be looking into. But with all the parts swaps you may have already ruled this out.

Hope it gets figured out!

QWKSNKE · 04-10-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PonyChick

Okay this may be far fetched or because of all the parts swaps that you've done it may be ruled out but I felt it was worth a mention.

Completely random but I had a customer come in tonight for an Idle Air Control Valve (motor) and was talking about having a fox 302 that he had gotten an aftermarket IAC for at the parts house. After a short time of it being on the car he kept getting glowing headers. After checking all kinds of things on the car it ended up the aftermarket IAC valve had an extra spot that let in air. It was the correct aftermarket IAC valve just not made exactly OE. He put an OE dealer part back on the car and no more glowing headers. It was getting too much air.

It may not be the particular part but it could give you another area to be looking into. But with all the parts swaps you may have already ruled this out.

Hope it gets figured out!

that was done when he tried the intake kit off Angela's car a few months back.

Unless I am mistaken he has also removed the EFI at one time and tried a carb setup on it

CrazyInBlack · 04-10-2007, 08:49 PM

is the full exhaust on the car?

04-08-2007, 11:02 PM	#61
04 Mach1 Bet I red light B4U Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ANNISTON, AL Posts: 975	TDC has been established different block and heads have been swap out. Cam has been degree only to find it was a degree off heads have a fresh valve job. At the dyno yesterday with the wideband every thing was going right until you hold throttle at a steady rpm or you try WOT. Even with 80 psi of fuel preasure it would go rich for a split second then go lean. The A/F was 13.2 no matter were the FP was at (42-80). Has a brand new walbro 349(forced induction).Have run new fuel lines from the tank foward and swap a known FP regulator. Has a new 95mm MAF. Have swap in a different set of headers just to make sure the long tubes weren't thin causing the glow. What does the ecm have to see to go into WOT? At WOT it is basically being run off of the TPS, MAF and what else? Last edited by 04 Mach1; 04-08-2007 at 11:05 PM.

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PonyChick Pink Ladies Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Daphne, AL Posts: 1,181	Okay this may be far fetched or because of all the parts swaps that you've done it may be ruled out but I felt it was worth a mention. Completely random but I had a customer come in tonight for an Idle Air Control Valve (motor) and was talking about having a fox 302 that he had gotten an aftermarket IAC for at the parts house. After a short time of it being on the car he kept getting glowing headers. After checking all kinds of things on the car it ended up the aftermarket IAC valve had an extra spot that let in air. It was the correct aftermarket IAC valve just not made exactly OE. He put an OE dealer part back on the car and no more glowing headers. It was getting too much air. It may not be the particular part but it could give you another area to be looking into. But with all the parts swaps you may have already ruled this out. Hope it gets figured out! __________________ ~Jeanne~ 96 GT Coupe "Dusty" (the corner carver) Teaching the next generation how to drive a stick. Pink Ladies

04-09-2007, 10:43 PM	#67
04 Mach1 Bet I red light B4U Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ANNISTON, AL Posts: 975	Yes I have confirmed these to be 50lbs injectors. I have also swapped in a set of 19, 24, 42 and has done the exact same thing. It will do the same with or without the S/C belt.

04-10-2007, 08:49 PM	#70
CrazyInBlack Crusin... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Various Places in Middle AL Posts: 3,542	is the full exhaust on the car? __________________ Liberal education has nothing to do with liberal or conservative politics. Liberal education is the simple idea of a broad and well-rounded course of study in the humanities, social sciences, sciences, and the arts. The overarching goal is to liberate the mind from ignorance and superstition.