What ignition setup for 7,000 rpm or greater shifts?

ERStettin · 08-01-2005, 07:27 PM

I am running a 1992 Coupe, all motor 360 small block that is currently being shifted at 7,000 rpm and using the stock Ford electronics. Everyone is asking why? My answer, "Because it works"....lol. (I am using a TwEECer RT to control the rev limit and tune)

It is a DART block, nuetral balanced with forged internals.

Here are some questions for those who know ignitions (I admittedly do not).

1. Why not use the stock Ford stuff in this application?

2. What is a better ignition setup to use for an all motor setup like mine?

3. If I plan to upgrade to some higher winding parts next year and up my shift points from 7,000 to 8,000 rpm, what ignition parts would you recommend using and why?

4. Will a MSD 8456 TFI distributor, MSD Blaster Coil and MSD 6A work for me now and in the future with the 8,000 rpm shifts?

Thanks in advance to all who reply. I really have not looked into ignition stuff until now. I guess it never concerned me. Now I am looking to the future upgrades and would like to get some ideas as to which way to go. Thanks again to all who reply.

Ed Stettin

Italian LX · 08-01-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ERStettin

1. Why not use the stock Ford stuff in this application?

An aftermarket ignition will offer a more complete burn and will run more efficiently. Also, the "soft" rev limiter (such as on the MSD) will be a little easier on your motor.

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Originally Posted by ERStettin

4. Will a MSD 8456 TFI distributor, MSD Blaster Coil and MSD 6A work for me now and in the future with the 8,000 rpm shifts?

That would be a good set-up and probably all you would need. You may want to get the 6AL since the rev limiter is supposed to be a lot nicer than the stock EEC limiter.

ERStettin · 08-01-2005, 07:55 PM

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(I am using a TwEECer RT to control the rev limit and tune)

Thanks for the reply. I actually considered running the 6AL but am not sure if it can be used without the rev limiter option with my TwEECer. I would like to stay with the TwEECer as the rev limiter and have the 6AL for the future in the event I ever go carb (Fat chance....lol). Thanks.

slvrbullit · 08-01-2005, 07:56 PM

If you are turning the motor that high now and plan on the 8k rpms later then I would get the MSD 7 series ignition, it is a full out race set up, I am not too sure if you can use a regular distributor with it or if you will have to swap to a crank trigger set up. If that is not the way you want to go you may could do the MSD Digital 6.

slvrbullit · 08-01-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ERStettin

Thanks for the reply. I actually considered running the 6AL but am not sure if it can be used without the rev limiter option with my TwEECer. I would like to stay with the TwEECer as the rev limiter and have the 6AL for the future in the event I ever go carb (Fat chance....lol). Thanks.

The 6al will rev to the moon with out the RPM chips installed.

QWKSNKE · 08-01-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ERStettin

Thanks for the reply. I actually considered running the 6AL but am not sure if it can be used without the rev limiter option with my TwEECer. I would like to stay with the TwEECer as the rev limiter and have the 6AL for the future in the event I ever go carb (Fat chance....lol). Thanks.

Ed,
Italian is right. Use the rev limiter on the MSD box over the EEC built in rev limiter.

ERStettin · 08-01-2005, 08:02 PM

Thanks for the information. I didn't know that about the 6AL with no chip.

QWKSNKE · 08-01-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ERStettin

Thanks for the information. I didn't know that about the 6AL with no chip.

Basically, buy whatever pill you want for the rev limiter and set your EEC via Tweecer a few hundred rpm above that. If you don't adjust your EEC limiter, it will come on before the 6al limiter.

QWKSNKE · 08-01-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by slvrbullit

The 6al will rev to the moon with out the RPM chips installed.

yeah but the limiter in the EEC will still kick in

Italian LX · 08-01-2005, 08:17 PM

For some strange reason, he'd rather use the EEC rev limiter instead of the MSD.

What is your reasoning for this, Ed?

08-01-2005, 07:27 PM	#1
ERStettin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 109	What ignition setup for 7,000 rpm or greater shifts? I am running a 1992 Coupe, all motor 360 small block that is currently being shifted at 7,000 rpm and using the stock Ford electronics. Everyone is asking why? My answer, "Because it works"....lol. (I am using a TwEECer RT to control the rev limit and tune) It is a DART block, nuetral balanced with forged internals. Here are some questions for those who know ignitions (I admittedly do not). 1. Why not use the stock Ford stuff in this application? 2. What is a better ignition setup to use for an all motor setup like mine? 3. If I plan to upgrade to some higher winding parts next year and up my shift points from 7,000 to 8,000 rpm, what ignition parts would you recommend using and why? 4. Will a MSD 8456 TFI distributor, MSD Blaster Coil and MSD 6A work for me now and in the future with the 8,000 rpm shifts? Thanks in advance to all who reply. I really have not looked into ignition stuff until now. I guess it never concerned me. Now I am looking to the future upgrades and would like to get some ideas as to which way to go. Thanks again to all who reply. Ed Stettin __________________ Dart 360 (ADPerformance), FTI AFR 225, FTI Edelbrock Victor EFI, FTI Cam, Pro M 80 MM (42lb injectors), KOOKS Longtubes 1 7/8 inch to 2 inch to 3.5 inch collectors, Pro Motion TKO, FMS 4.88, Global West Suspension, ET Drags, TwEECer RT 10.74 @ 127.68 (best so far) THANKS : Ed Curtis www.flowtechinduction.com, Dave of www.jdsperformance.com, Walt of Pro Motion Transmissions, Jack of www.musclemotors.com, Brian of www.adperformance.com and Matt of SPEC clutches (www.specclutch.com)

08-01-2005, 07:56 PM	#4
slvrbullit Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: on the water Posts: 1,280	Re: What ignition setup for 7,000 rpm or greater shifts? If you are turning the motor that high now and plan on the 8k rpms later then I would get the MSD 7 series ignition, it is a full out race set up, I am not too sure if you can use a regular distributor with it or if you will have to swap to a crank trigger set up. If that is not the way you want to go you may could do the MSD Digital 6. __________________ 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited--- too many mods to list, about to be sitting on 1 ton axles. 2000 Ford F-350 Dually Lariat LE Crew Cab Short Box 7.3 auto 168,000 miles

08-01-2005, 08:02 PM	#7
ERStettin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 109	Re: What ignition setup for 7,000 rpm or greater shifts? Thanks for the information. I didn't know that about the 6AL with no chip. __________________ Dart 360 (ADPerformance), FTI AFR 225, FTI Edelbrock Victor EFI, FTI Cam, Pro M 80 MM (42lb injectors), KOOKS Longtubes 1 7/8 inch to 2 inch to 3.5 inch collectors, Pro Motion TKO, FMS 4.88, Global West Suspension, ET Drags, TwEECer RT 10.74 @ 127.68 (best so far) THANKS : Ed Curtis www.flowtechinduction.com, Dave of www.jdsperformance.com, Walt of Pro Motion Transmissions, Jack of www.musclemotors.com, Brian of www.adperformance.com and Matt of SPEC clutches (www.specclutch.com)

08-01-2005, 08:17 PM	#10
Italian LX Daddy x4 ...we're done Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxford, AL Posts: 11,551	Re: What ignition setup for 7,000 rpm or greater shifts? For some strange reason, he'd rather use the EEC rev limiter instead of the MSD. What is your reasoning for this, Ed? __________________ -Brian '86 Mustang GT Convertible '88 Mustang LX coupe '11 Odyssey TE '21 Insight Touring