New Moates hardware almost ready for primetime....

[Dale McPeters]

Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

So, it does not have a channel for wideband readings or can you use a dataq like we do with a Tweecer.
Matt only lives about 5 minutes from me. So we learn it together

Yes you can still use the dataq for wideband reading etc...

Note that you will still have to setup your transfer curve for the kind of WB that you are using...

[banditmwp]

i was sold on a tweecer but if moates can do it better, i am willing to try it. I am not afraid of the learning curve, i'm a fairly smart guy

[Dale McPeters]

Originally Posted by banditmwp

i was sold on a tweecer but if moates can do it better, i am willing to try it. I am not afraid of the learning curve, i'm a fairly smart guy

Just remember that you can not read the stock binary out of the eec just yet with the QH.....the only down fall that I have found so far.

But most common binaries are available on the web though.....

I do not have this problem as I have all of the Ford based Moates hardware to date.....

For now I can probably send you a stock binary to start with if you can tell me the catch code...

[ncontt]

any updates Dale???? I'm going to be needing something once I get the new turbo (here SOON I hope!!!!) Momma gets a nice bonus July 1!!!!!

[Dale McPeters]

Originally Posted by ncontt

any updates Dale???? I'm going to be needing something once I get the new turbo (here SOON I hope!!!!) Momma gets a nice bonus July 1!!!!!

Yes the Moates Quater Horse works great!!!

But it will still take $$$ to get setup to tune properly.
I think the price breaks down to something like this >

QH is still $249
Clint's BE/EA software about $130 (I think)

Or you can use Paul Booth's software which is cheaper I think he posted something on the cost for this on the Moates web page. I will take a look this afternoon and see what I can find. I have used Paul's software since early 2000 so I know it works properly and he can crack almost any binary and update the patches very well. It just does not have the bling that most youngsters want now days. Which I do not mind as I am an old fart myself...

Ok here is the update on Paul's EEC-Editor software that he posted on the Moates website >

All licenses are per 'strategy'. For instance, GUFB captures many of the 1989-93 V8 Mustangs, but it is considered a single strategy.

General pricing structure is as follows:
$20: EEC4 (pre-1996) DEF license for making calibration changes.
$30: EEC5 (1996-2004) DEF license.
$25: EEC4 DLM license for datalogging via QuarterHorse (again, strategy-specific).
$35: EEC5 DLM license.

$50: Create a basic Emulation/Editor strategy definition for previously unsupported vehicle.
$90: Create a more extensive Emulation/Datalogging combo definition for use with QuarterHorse for previously unsupported vehicle.

For example, if you want to burn chips for an A9L GUFB car, and you planned to get the JayBird and F3 module, you would only need to purchase the $20 Editor Definition for GUFB. So for $75(Jaybird)+$60(F3)+$20(license), you can program your own chips.

Want to program your buddy's 1994 T4M0 CBAZA? Add that option for only $20 more with an additional editor definition.

Decide later on to get a $249 QuarterHorse and you want to add realtime emulation for both definitions? No additional licensing costs. Want to add datalogging via QuarterHorse for both strategies? It'll run you another $25+$25 for those add-ons.

Still even at that point in this possibly confusing scenario, you're into it only $384 in hardware and $90 in software, and you can tune any number of 1989-95 Mustangs for only $60 a chip module extra. Not too shabby!

If you need additional definitions, you can add them individually to your cart for checkout, each with the different range of options selected.

REMEMBER!
If you're adding this item to your cart, you should have already downloaded and installed the software (see link below) on the PC you plan to use it with. Then you can go into the "Help->Request Registration Number" option. This number must be submitted in the comments field when you finalize your order.

[ncontt]

Thanks Dale, I had the stuff from Clint YEARS ago (seems like) when I had the tweecer, and I was about to get my coupe running with the twinturbos, which I ended up selling, I don't know if he even still has a record of my getting it....lol

[jonosranger]

Man im likin this already

[Dale McPeters]

Originally Posted by ncontt

Thanks Dale, I had the stuff from Clint YEARS ago (seems like) when I had the tweecer, and I was about to get my coupe running with the twinturbos, which I ended up selling, I don't know if he even still has a record of my getting it....lol

If Clint has been keeping his records correctly he should have a record of yours some where....You may have to resend the machine code from your laptop for him to be able to check.

By the way off to the dyno in the morning for a free test & tune unless something changes. I need to get a baseline with the 306 in the cobra before the Dart and other stuff goes in....maybe it will make 330 to the tire with the 306 n/a.

[ncontt]

Thanks Dale, GOOD LUCK!!!! SPIN EM if you got em!!!

[Dale McPeters]

Originally Posted by ncontt

Thanks Dale, GOOD LUCK!!!! SPIN EM if you got em!!!

Brad,

I almost forgot but here is what the baby 306 put down.
334 rwhp / 296 rwtq

Not to shabby for a QH tune by me sitting in the shop dialing it in and a few quick runs down the back roads....

Now the AEM, bigger motor, injectors etc. and a 'lil boost can be installed.