08-23-2007, 09:23 PM | #11 |
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that AEM looks pretty sweet.
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By the way Lee I guess I should explain why what you are trying to do will work so others that do not know will.......
Short Explaination : The TwEECer takes over the calibration console of the EEC-IV just like most other J3 modules and uses the binary that is flashed to the TwEECer instead of what is in the EEC-IV. The TwEECer effectively takes over all the calibration data. The PMS is a piggy back type system that goes in between the EEC-IV and the engine/sensors. It intercepts the signals and modifies them according to the programming that is loaded in the PMS. When using the two in conjunction with each other the TwEECer would control most all the idle and drivability parameters. The PMS will only come into play when certain conditions are met in stand-a-lone mode just as it does now. This will effectively take the EEC-IV/TwEECer (J3 module) out of the picture when all of the preset parameters in the PMS are met. It will be like the TwEECer is not even there when this happens. You will however have to make sure that the PMS is not fighting the TwEECer for things such as the idle control motor etc. I did a setup like this a long time ago with an old style PMS & an EEC-Tuner. When it is setup properly it will work very very well.
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I am not all that familiar with the pms. What are the benifits of the pms over the tweecers features at wide open throttle? The only thing I could see is it's ability to see boost and retard the timing according to that. There must be some additional benefits that I am not seeing. Would the tweecer be able to datalog WOT blasts when using the pms in stand alone.
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What about it, Dale? Do you think this is possible?
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No the PMS turns off the EEC when certain WOT variable are met so you would not be able to datalog. The PMS would have to be disconnected to datalog and tune with the tweecer at WOT.
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The PMS Series IV benefits in stand-a-lone mode > Nitrous Control Boost reference (map sensor). Can control timing better under boost. Engine can be turned to a higher rpm than 7000-7500 without changing the crystals in the EEC-IV. As some EEC-IV's are limited in this regard. Plus other stuff that Lee listed above. Quote:
Clear as mud yet?
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I was just curious about it. I didn't know anything about the pms. I have just ordered a tweecer rt for my cobra. I think for a regular street driven 94-95 car that the tweecer would be the best bet short of a full on stand alone such as the AEM. I am very impressed with its features and software and would love to have one. Seeing how the pms doesn't allow you to tune for driveability I can see the reasons for wanting to add the tweecer I just was unsure the reasons for keeping the pms along with the tweecer but I understand a little better now.
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08-28-2007, 12:33 PM | #19 |
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yeah I had a tweecer and then swapped to the PMS. The advanatage for me is not having to keep a laptop in the car to make changes. PMS has its own controller that displays real time data all the time.
Another reason was because I wanted to learn a new tuning tool. My next step is learning the SCT software on a late model
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Yeah I was told it looks similar to my tweecer software but with less problems. If I knew somebody that done a bunch of tuning I would learn all I could about it. I would love to get paid for tuning cars.
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