1975 460 swap in - Page 2

waypastcrazy · 03-11-2009, 09:47 PM

For tranny depends on what your budget is for economy build coupe is correct the c6 will fit the build for a mild 500 hp and torque and be the cheapest easiest rte. Give us more details on what performance level you are looking for. Because that will determine if the d3 heads will be sufficient. The compression will be low on that year without some engine modification. Those heads are around 95 cc. Also ford put the pistons about .015 below deck heigth.and the exhaust needs some serious work depending on what your goal is. They also put the valves .100 further up in the chamber and this shorten the short turn radius in the head and hurt flow but can be ported to make 500 pretty easy but need atleast .050 shaved.they also put a retarded timing set in them that hurts performance. But can be fixed with earlier set like 70 or so or an aftermarket. A cam with duration favoring the exhaust will also help.and a duraspark with a timing recurve. The sky is the limit. Joe is correct all factory it will give dissapointing results. But with a few mods can make some decent power just like any other engine. Give us more info on what you want from this and we can give you more specifics. Clyde

SlowJoe · 03-11-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by waypastcrazy

For tranny depends on what your budget is for economy build coupe is correct the c6 will fit the build for a mild 500 hp and torque and be the cheapest easiest rte. Give us more details on what performance level you are looking for. Because that will determine if the d3 heads will be sufficient. The compression will be low on that year without some engine modification. Those heads are around 95 cc. Also ford put the pistons about .015 below deck heigth.and the exhaust needs some serious work depending on what your goal is. They also put the valves .100 further up in the chamber and this shorten the short turn radius in the head and hurt flow but can be ported to make 500 pretty easy but need atleast .050 shaved.they also put a retarded timing set in them that hurts performance. But can be fixed with earlier set like 70 or so or an aftermarket. A cam with duration favoring the exhaust will also help.and a duraspark with a timing recurve. The sky is the limit. Joe is correct all factory it will give dissapointing results. But with a few mods can make some decent power just like ant other engine. Give us more info on what you want from this and we can give you more specifics. Clyde

thats is what i was thinking. by the time he buys all the stuff to put it in and such he could do a small block and be rolling. but say if it was a 69 DOVE maybe worth the swap. headers new are around 350, oil pan setup 200, mounts 200 or motor plate for a 100,cutting drive shaft who knows, and the other small odds and ends.

waypastcrazy · 03-11-2009, 09:56 PM

Plan the build based on your performance goals.that will determine which oil pan and what size headers you will need. Hooker headers. D and d. Crites. Are a few that make headers. On a mild build frpp or a 80 up. Truck pan will work. For higher power build I recomend a canton. Milodon or one with good baffling. Lol let us know. Plan plan plan. Will save you lots of headache and dissapointment clyde

waypastcrazy · 03-11-2009, 10:15 PM

I am not trying to be a smart butt just give facts from experience. Its not just a slap in and be super fast car. Its like any good build know what you need to do to make it perform. Lol clyde

QWKSNKE · 03-12-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by waypastcrazy

. Plan plan plan.

this is the biggest mistake I see people make. No research or goals. Just slap a motor in because it has bigger displacement and can't figure out why it doesn't run worth a piss

SlowJoe · 03-12-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

this is the biggest mistake I see people make. No research or goals. Just slap a motor in because it has bigger displacement and can't figure out why it doesn't run worth a piss

thats how some motors get a bad rep.

waypastcrazy · 03-12-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by joecoupe

thats how some motors get a bad rep.

i agree. a few years back i seen a 7.0 or faster 460 mustang that had all the parts to be fast run 8.60s in 1/8 mile and guy got frustrated and parted the entire car out.just a few changes here and there such as degreeing cam dizzy recurve and setting up a proper quench and the proper intake would have made a world of difference.i still here guys put big block down because of that build. that is one of the reasons i have built the engine i have now. it will be a learning experience and eye opener for a few local guys here.

SlowJoe · 03-12-2009, 08:09 AM

^somebody has more than they PLANED on.

adrenaline=lifeline · 03-12-2009, 10:15 AM

the build would have been planed. that was why i asked here what was all needed for the swap. unfortunately i cant get the motor and transmission, so the cars still for sale unless something comes up. thanks guys for all the information, ill keep it all in mind for the future. but if anyone knows where i can get s decent stock small block to start with id appreciate it.

03-11-2009, 09:47 PM	#11
waypastcrazy ADDICTED TO SMALL BLOCKS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lookout mt Posts: 1,757	For tranny depends on what your budget is for economy build coupe is correct the c6 will fit the build for a mild 500 hp and torque and be the cheapest easiest rte. Give us more details on what performance level you are looking for. Because that will determine if the d3 heads will be sufficient. The compression will be low on that year without some engine modification. Those heads are around 95 cc. Also ford put the pistons about .015 below deck heigth.and the exhaust needs some serious work depending on what your goal is. They also put the valves .100 further up in the chamber and this shorten the short turn radius in the head and hurt flow but can be ported to make 500 pretty easy but need atleast .050 shaved.they also put a retarded timing set in them that hurts performance. But can be fixed with earlier set like 70 or so or an aftermarket. A cam with duration favoring the exhaust will also help.and a duraspark with a timing recurve. The sky is the limit. Joe is correct all factory it will give dissapointing results. But with a few mods can make some decent power just like any other engine. Give us more info on what you want from this and we can give you more specifics. Clyde __________________ http://alabamaopencarry.com/forum/index.php One of StreetStangs class clowns! Status:slow as hell! NORTH EAST ALABAMA STANGS Last edited by waypastcrazy; 03-12-2009 at 07:53 AM.

03-11-2009, 09:56 PM	#13
waypastcrazy ADDICTED TO SMALL BLOCKS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lookout mt Posts: 1,757	Plan the build based on your performance goals.that will determine which oil pan and what size headers you will need. Hooker headers. D and d. Crites. Are a few that make headers. On a mild build frpp or a 80 up. Truck pan will work. For higher power build I recomend a canton. Milodon or one with good baffling. Lol let us know. Plan plan plan. Will save you lots of headache and dissapointment clyde __________________ http://alabamaopencarry.com/forum/index.php One of StreetStangs class clowns! Status:slow as hell! NORTH EAST ALABAMA STANGS

03-11-2009, 10:15 PM	#14
waypastcrazy ADDICTED TO SMALL BLOCKS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lookout mt Posts: 1,757	I am not trying to be a smart butt just give facts from experience. Its not just a slap in and be super fast car. Its like any good build know what you need to do to make it perform. Lol clyde __________________ http://alabamaopencarry.com/forum/index.php One of StreetStangs class clowns! Status:slow as hell! NORTH EAST ALABAMA STANGS

03-12-2009, 08:09 AM	#18
SlowJoe Mind Blowing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dawsonville Ga Posts: 3,913	^somebody has more than they PLANED on. __________________ Slow Joe Racing 2008 dodge ram 5.7 HEMI 1993 lx with a 289 and a 3 speed on the floor WTB 1955 t-bird project

03-12-2009, 10:15 AM	#19
adrenaline=lifeline Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 29	the build would have been planed. that was why i asked here what was all needed for the swap. unfortunately i cant get the motor and transmission, so the cars still for sale unless something comes up. thanks guys for all the information, ill keep it all in mind for the future. but if anyone knows where i can get s decent stock small block to start with id appreciate it. Last edited by adrenaline=lifeline; 03-12-2009 at 10:19 AM.