This is the chit!

ERStettin · 10-19-2006, 10:14 AM

http://www.mass-floefi.com/reviews.html

I am seriously considering swapping over to this EFI setup this winter. If it provides the driveability and horsepower that I currently have or better,then it is a done deal. I am thinking of something like this setup with a Stormin Normin Cervini hood and ram air setup so I don't have to keep pulling my headlight for the cold air power at the track.

Anyone know anyone running something like this or any real world information about it other than what is provided in this link?

QWKSNKE · 10-19-2006, 10:24 AM

Interesting.

While I did grow up in the carb era, I prefer the standard EFI look over any carb look

Italian LX · 10-19-2006, 10:27 AM

Pretty neat idea to get the "look" of a carburated motor, but, like you, I'm really interested to see some real-world feedback bfore praising the system.

I really don't see how that MAF system can consistantly meter air coming into the TB. It just seems like the airflow could be very turbulant around the wires the way it just sits under the filter with no stretch of tubing before it.

Also, I'm thinking you would give up a lot of low-end torque with that set-up; however, you could surely turn the RPM's up a little higher. Great for a racing aplication -- not good for a street rod.

Italian LX · 10-19-2006, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

. . . I prefer the standard EFI look over any carb look

However, I can see where the Cobra kit car scene would praise this technology.

coupe · 10-19-2006, 10:33 AM

I like it Ed. There's a Holley EFI system like that, right? But it comes with a Commander EFI, stand alone.
This one uses stock CPU and a MAF with translator. Interesting indeed.

ERStettin · 10-19-2006, 01:20 PM

Yeah, I am waiting for some real world feedback on it before I make the plunge and buy one.

I am looking for the hood clearance and less clutter that this will give me. I am thinking I would be able to mock up a nice cold air intake with the Stormin Norman Cervini hood I would run with it as well. Right now, I remove the passenger side headlight assembly for that ram air effect at the track. I would be able to forgo doing that with this setup as well.

It would be cool to hear it actually works well. I have this same question going on Hardcore50 and some other sites too. No one with any real world experience yet though. Hopefully soon. We will see.

Matt, I replied to your PM.

93Cobra#2771 · 10-25-2006, 06:52 AM

I don't think MAF turbulance would be an issue - the GM MAF's are well known for their more accurate meters, and they aren't as succeptable to turbulance as the Ford meters.

What I would be concerned about is the converter box for the MAF signal. You will have a time delay in that conversion, which will run everything slower as far as the EEC getting the signal.

I realize that I'm prob. only talking milliseconds, but still.

Interesting concept though, and gives the carb look to older cars that prefer that look.

ERStettin · 10-25-2006, 09:26 AM

Yes Richard I was thinking of that as well. After talking to Ed Curtis and some others, I have decided this is not the route for me at this time. I LOVE the idea though.

slvrbullit · 10-25-2006, 12:56 PM

Edelbrock also makes a EFI set up like that I believe but I dont know if it has a stand alone or piggy back on to a stock computer.

Here is the link to their product. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...flo_ford.shtml

ERStettin · 10-26-2006, 10:00 AM

Yeah, I talked to their sale rep at their display at the NHRA race at Brainerd and he said it will only support 450 hp or something like that. It seemed really low so I let it be.

10-19-2006, 10:14 AM	#1
ERStettin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 109	This is the chit! http://www.mass-floefi.com/reviews.html I am seriously considering swapping over to this EFI setup this winter. If it provides the driveability and horsepower that I currently have or better,then it is a done deal. I am thinking of something like this setup with a Stormin Normin Cervini hood and ram air setup so I don't have to keep pulling my headlight for the cold air power at the track. Anyone know anyone running something like this or any real world information about it other than what is provided in this link? __________________ Dart 360 (ADPerformance), FTI AFR 225, FTI Edelbrock Victor EFI, FTI Cam, Pro M 80 MM (42lb injectors), KOOKS Longtubes 1 7/8 inch to 2 inch to 3.5 inch collectors, Pro Motion TKO, FMS 4.88, Global West Suspension, ET Drags, TwEECer RT 10.74 @ 127.68 (best so far) THANKS : Ed Curtis www.flowtechinduction.com, Dave of www.jdsperformance.com, Walt of Pro Motion Transmissions, Jack of www.musclemotors.com, Brian of www.adperformance.com and Matt of SPEC clutches (www.specclutch.com)

10-19-2006, 10:27 AM	#3
Italian LX Daddy x4 ...we're done Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxford, AL Posts: 11,551	Pretty neat idea to get the "look" of a carburated motor, but, like you, I'm really interested to see some real-world feedback bfore praising the system. I really don't see how that MAF system can consistantly meter air coming into the TB. It just seems like the airflow could be very turbulant around the wires the way it just sits under the filter with no stretch of tubing before it. Also, I'm thinking you would give up a lot of low-end torque with that set-up; however, you could surely turn the RPM's up a little higher. Great for a racing aplication -- not good for a street rod. __________________ -Brian '86 Mustang GT Convertible '88 Mustang LX coupe '11 Odyssey TE '21 Insight Touring

10-19-2006, 10:33 AM	#5
coupe Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,313	I like it Ed. There's a Holley EFI system like that, right? But it comes with a Commander EFI, stand alone. This one uses stock CPU and a MAF with translator. Interesting indeed. __________________ " If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. " - Albert Einstein

10-19-2006, 01:20 PM	#6
ERStettin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 109	Yeah, I am waiting for some real world feedback on it before I make the plunge and buy one. I am looking for the hood clearance and less clutter that this will give me. I am thinking I would be able to mock up a nice cold air intake with the Stormin Norman Cervini hood I would run with it as well. Right now, I remove the passenger side headlight assembly for that ram air effect at the track. I would be able to forgo doing that with this setup as well. It would be cool to hear it actually works well. I have this same question going on Hardcore50 and some other sites too. No one with any real world experience yet though. Hopefully soon. We will see. Matt, I replied to your PM. __________________ Dart 360 (ADPerformance), FTI AFR 225, FTI Edelbrock Victor EFI, FTI Cam, Pro M 80 MM (42lb injectors), KOOKS Longtubes 1 7/8 inch to 2 inch to 3.5 inch collectors, Pro Motion TKO, FMS 4.88, Global West Suspension, ET Drags, TwEECer RT 10.74 @ 127.68 (best so far) THANKS : Ed Curtis www.flowtechinduction.com, Dave of www.jdsperformance.com, Walt of Pro Motion Transmissions, Jack of www.musclemotors.com, Brian of www.adperformance.com and Matt of SPEC clutches (www.specclutch.com)

10-25-2006, 06:52 AM	#7
93Cobra#2771 The Kocky One Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Yeah, but those cutters won't bust any walnuts.â„¢ Posts: 1,948	I don't think MAF turbulance would be an issue - the GM MAF's are well known for their more accurate meters, and they aren't as succeptable to turbulance as the Ford meters. What I would be concerned about is the converter box for the MAF signal. You will have a time delay in that conversion, which will run everything slower as far as the EEC getting the signal. I realize that I'm prob. only talking milliseconds, but still. Interesting concept though, and gives the carb look to older cars that prefer that look. __________________ *For Sale: Reproduction Window Stickers, 87+ Mustangs, Cobras, Lightnings, and HD F150!* Richard White 93 Cobra Kocky will be back!

10-19-2006, 10:24 AM	#2
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Interesting. While I did grow up in the carb era, I prefer the standard EFI look over any carb look

10-25-2006, 09:26 AM	#8
ERStettin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 109	Yes Richard I was thinking of that as well. After talking to Ed Curtis and some others, I have decided this is not the route for me at this time. I LOVE the idea though. __________________ Dart 360 (ADPerformance), FTI AFR 225, FTI Edelbrock Victor EFI, FTI Cam, Pro M 80 MM (42lb injectors), KOOKS Longtubes 1 7/8 inch to 2 inch to 3.5 inch collectors, Pro Motion TKO, FMS 4.88, Global West Suspension, ET Drags, TwEECer RT 10.74 @ 127.68 (best so far) THANKS : Ed Curtis www.flowtechinduction.com, Dave of www.jdsperformance.com, Walt of Pro Motion Transmissions, Jack of www.musclemotors.com, Brian of www.adperformance.com and Matt of SPEC clutches (www.specclutch.com)

10-25-2006, 12:56 PM	#9
slvrbullit Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: on the water Posts: 1,280	Edelbrock also makes a EFI set up like that I believe but I dont know if it has a stand alone or piggy back on to a stock computer. Here is the link to their product. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...flo_ford.shtml __________________ 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited--- too many mods to list, about to be sitting on 1 ton axles. 2000 Ford F-350 Dually Lariat LE Crew Cab Short Box 7.3 auto 168,000 miles Last edited by slvrbullit; 10-25-2006 at 12:59 PM. Reason: added link

10-26-2006, 10:00 AM	#10
ERStettin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 109	Yeah, I talked to their sale rep at their display at the NHRA race at Brainerd and he said it will only support 450 hp or something like that. It seemed really low so I let it be. __________________ Dart 360 (ADPerformance), FTI AFR 225, FTI Edelbrock Victor EFI, FTI Cam, Pro M 80 MM (42lb injectors), KOOKS Longtubes 1 7/8 inch to 2 inch to 3.5 inch collectors, Pro Motion TKO, FMS 4.88, Global West Suspension, ET Drags, TwEECer RT 10.74 @ 127.68 (best so far) THANKS : Ed Curtis www.flowtechinduction.com, Dave of www.jdsperformance.com, Walt of Pro Motion Transmissions, Jack of www.musclemotors.com, Brian of www.adperformance.com and Matt of SPEC clutches (www.specclutch.com)