Header recommendations??? - Page 2

475HP '03 cobra · 03-28-2006, 02:58 PM

BBK shortys i would say long tubes but they're such a pain in the ass if you have to swap a clutch, my dad runs BBK longs on his Terminator

TheJeanyus · 03-28-2006, 03:01 PM

I would not go through the PITA of a header install and only do shorty headers.

My goal is to one day do long tubes (not sure what brand) and a tubular K member together.

rtusnake · 03-28-2006, 05:27 PM

Believe I'm going to do longtubes on mine while I have the k member out. Going with bbk on mine. They were a good header imo, and also helps get some heat out.

475HP '03 cobra · 03-30-2006, 04:25 PM

how come everyone is so sold on going long tube, are the power gains really that much more significant than shortys?

TheJeanyus · 03-30-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 475HP '03 cobra

how come everyone is so sold on going long tube, are the power gains really that much more significant than shortys?

Yes. Shorties don't really do much on a 4.6. 20 rwhp at the most on a 500 hp blown engine just isn't worth the cost and trouble IMO. The gains are even smaller for NA motors. The stock manifolds are a lot better than the old 5.0 manifolds.

If you're going through all the trouble to do it, do long tubes. Yeah it might be marginally more difficult to put a clutch in, but it's not like you put a clutch in every morning before work.

Italian LX · 03-30-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJeanyus

Yeah it might be marginally more difficult to put a clutch in. . . .

. . . marginally. . .

TheJeanyus · 03-30-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Italian LX

. . . marginally. . .

You don't seem to have a problem with yours, bitch hands.

475HP '03 cobra · 03-30-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJeanyus

Yes. Shorties don't really do much on a 4.6. 20 rwhp at the most on a 500 hp blown engine just isn't worth the cost and trouble IMO. The gains are even smaller for NA motors. The stock manifolds are a lot better than the old 5.0 manifolds.

If you're going through all the trouble to do it, do long tubes. Yeah it might be marginally more difficult to put a clutch in, but it's not like you put a clutch in every morning before work.

yeah i wasnt sure, considering im more of a small block pushrod guy. i know that my dad has them on his terminator and he saw quite a little jump but when he had to replace his clutch, he wasnt a very happy long tube owner haha

nxcoupe · 04-05-2006, 11:40 AM

I am a MAC long tube header fan here. I have put on MAC, Hooker, BBK, and Bassani mid lengths. The MAC's were the easiest to put on by far. Get the ceramic coated ones, for the little extra they cost, it is really worth it in longevity of the looks/header pipes. The Bassani mid lengths work really well too, but not as easy to put on as the MACs IMHO.
when you do long tubes, it is ESSENTIAL that you get a tune with the install. We saw marginal improvements in hp until the car was tuned, then we saw more along the lines of what was anticipated from the headers and exhaust. We changed the O2 sampling delay, and a few other things to get the tune on track.

Italian LX · 04-05-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJeanyus

You don't seem to have a problem with yours, bitch hands.

There is a big difference between the pushrod and mod-motor installation of headers.... try them both some day and let me know what you think.

03-28-2006, 02:58 PM	#11
475HP '03 cobra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 157	Re: Header recommendations??? BBK shortys i would say long tubes but they're such a pain in the ass if you have to swap a clutch, my dad runs BBK longs on his Terminator __________________ bet you aint never seen a Shelby V8 ranger...heres a link which includes the one i had built http://photobucket.com/albums/c233/fordguy383/ some people have said mustangs have destroyed my life, i say they've made it worth living.

03-28-2006, 03:01 PM	#12
TheJeanyus Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 14,774	Re: Header recommendations??? I would not go through the PITA of a header install and only do shorty headers. My goal is to one day do long tubes (not sure what brand) and a tubular K member together. __________________ 1998 Mustang GT Coupe - World's Slowest Racecar 2005 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V8 2013 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI

03-28-2006, 05:27 PM	#13
rtusnake Halfshaft Killer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Kingdom Posts: 3,910	Re: Header recommendations??? Believe I'm going to do longtubes on mine while I have the k member out. Going with bbk on mine. They were a good header imo, and also helps get some heat out. __________________ 03 Cobra 06 F250 (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

03-30-2006, 04:25 PM	#14
475HP '03 cobra Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 157	Re: Header recommendations??? how come everyone is so sold on going long tube, are the power gains really that much more significant than shortys? __________________ bet you aint never seen a Shelby V8 ranger...heres a link which includes the one i had built http://photobucket.com/albums/c233/fordguy383/ some people have said mustangs have destroyed my life, i say they've made it worth living.

04-05-2006, 11:40 AM	#19
nxcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere, Afghanistan Posts: 122	Re: Header recommendations??? I am a MAC long tube header fan here. I have put on MAC, Hooker, BBK, and Bassani mid lengths. The MAC's were the easiest to put on by far. Get the ceramic coated ones, for the little extra they cost, it is really worth it in longevity of the looks/header pipes. The Bassani mid lengths work really well too, but not as easy to put on as the MACs IMHO. when you do long tubes, it is ESSENTIAL that you get a tune with the install. We saw marginal improvements in hp until the car was tuned, then we saw more along the lines of what was anticipated from the headers and exhaust. We changed the O2 sampling delay, and a few other things to get the tune on track. __________________ Michael 92 coupe R/S 8