01-13-2005, 04:44 PM | #1 |
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Lets start a load value thread
Obviously since the procharger has been installed, I see a higher load value on the engine when datalogging. However I feel that it maybe to high.
Richard, since you have made massive amounts of posts on the tweecer site, have you seen anything about how load variables should be adjusted to make up for the blower load? Talked to the tuner at Modular Power House this past weekend (we went over there for Wall96cobra's tuning) and he said that he adjust load variables with the MAF transfer curve and something else. (SCT software) Does that sound right?
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01-13-2005, 06:25 PM | #2 |
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Re: Lets start a load value thread
Are you asking us to post our load values?
Well, when Doug datalogged my car at the last dyno day, I was seeing 175% load at 4960rpm. Load started going down after that because the MAF was pegging. It should be 200+% up in the higher rpms if the MAF wasn't pegging.
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01-13-2005, 06:36 PM | #3 |
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Re: Lets start a load value thread
Are you serious? Mine look waaaaay better than that. Cruising speed I hit around 50-60% and at WOT I see around 125-130% (I think).
I was more concerned in getting it down around 30% (or less) at cruising speed. After talking with another guy that has a procharger I am thinking that they create a lot more load than Vortech or Paxton
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01-13-2005, 07:30 PM | #4 |
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Re: Lets start a load value thread
I went to do a search but came up empty.
I believe it was one of the guys with a turbo, or 93 notch himself..... but I distinctly remember a post about load with a power added. They were recommending changing the CID (displacement) values because that ultimately controls your load calculations. If you add CID, then your calculated loads will decrease and vice versa for the smaller CID.
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Load value is just amount of air flowed divided by theoretical(CID*RPM). How would lowering it help you?
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You still didn't answer my question. How would a lower load value give better performance or tuning than the higher value even if the higher vaule is correct? Regardless of whether you up the CID and lower the load, its all relative.
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01-13-2005, 08:09 PM | #8 |
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I think load is what is killing my fuel economy.
There are so many tables that are based off load its not funny. (timing, fuel, etc)
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01-13-2005, 08:11 PM | #9 |
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Also,
Over 78-79% load will put you into open loop settings on a fox from I understand.
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