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Plus dont the 03's have an iron block?
Nathan, I say go for it with your design. Hell it cant hurt anything ![]() ![]()
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Nathan, please take this as constructive criticism and nothing more as I am trying to understand why/how your rotors developed cracks...
![]() I am wondering about your driving style when it comes to braking...if you brake early you are going to get your brakes hot and overheat them causing excess heat and/or shuddering of the pads. Nobody performs late braking practices as a natural instinct and I suspect you don't either. I had to teach myself late braking as does everyone else and I am sure Craig did the same when he first started his performance driving. It is a natural instinct to brake far before you need to when coming to a corner/curve.....this leads to warpage, cracking, fade, etc from excessive heat. You would be shocked to learn how late you can brake. This is the only conclusion I can come to with your problem....if you need brake cooling ducts on the street then you must be braking too early. On track they are needed at places like TGPR but not on an autocross course. Since it's for school by all means do it since you can have fun doing it and get yourself something useful..... But.... ...I think the problem lies elsewhere. |
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I also agree with Paul that doing an Auto X you'll most likely will never need brake coolers. But I think that you should definatly do this as a school project, where else can you earn credit and get something for your car. P.S. I didn't forget about posting some pic's last night, I just ran out of time.
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Ok, let me clear a couple of things up:
The ONLY time that I have experienced measureable fade was while we were at the Dragon. (Mostly on the skyway) This fade was induced by me purposely because I wanted to know how much they would take. I do not get fade in everyday driving. The crack turned out ot be a rock ding that just happened to be right next to a crossdrilled hole. I looked like the beginnings of a stress crack, but I never got the wheels off to look at it closely. False alarm, everything is ok. As far as my driving style... I am brake heavy and I know that. Thats just how I learned to drive in Karts and I'm doing it in the car. I've been working on that bad habit because it will put in into a spin quick, but all my suspension mods are helping the seperation process. But see my first comment on the fade issue. As for the validity of brake cooling ducts on my car or not, Im doing this as a process of learning. I don't learn by reading books, I learn by turning wrenches and breaking things. Will the car every see a 200mph stop coming down the back stretch of Talladega Speedway, probably not. But will like the added benefit of cooling ducts and the knowledge of how to make them work on my cup car. ![]() ![]()
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