c4 ???????

SlowJoe · 08-17-2008, 08:32 AM

did the mid 70s cobra II have a different bell housing than other c4s. if so can u swap them out?

QWKSNKE · 08-17-2008, 09:02 AM

I wouldn't think so. To my knowledge all 302's had the same bolt pattern

SlowJoe · 08-17-2008, 09:19 AM

A guy has one and said the bell was smaller in length.

04 Mach1 · 08-17-2008, 12:56 PM

Yes they have 2 different bellhousing setups. Casefill and Panfill, the casefill is smaller this is the one you need for the fox bodies the full lengths headers work without any issue. They made a c5 in the early 80's these were casefill also and will work fine. The only difference that I know is fine thread and coarse thread on the band adjusters.

SlowJoe · 08-17-2008, 01:26 PM

hmmm so maybe this is just the small bell housing c4. he said they only put these in the cobra 2s. he may just be wrong. i knew the case and pan fill styles but he is saying this one is not the same as ether of those.

04 Mach1 · 08-17-2008, 03:45 PM

Yes the bellhousing unbolt. The smaller bellhousing bolt to the case threw the front pump. Large bellhousing have their own set of bolts that hold them to the case. I beleive all case fills have the smaller bellhousing. As far as corba II having a even smaller bellhousing I don't think thats right.

EHardy1971 · 08-17-2008, 09:37 PM

Yep,one was a 157 tooth bellhousing,where the other was a 164 tooth,and Like Marc said,one was a case fill (157 tooth),and the other was pan fill (164 tooth).

militarymustang88gt · 08-18-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 04 Mach1

Yes they have 2 different bellhousing setups. Casefill and Panfill, the casefill is smaller this is the one you need for the fox bodies the full lengths headers work without any issue. They made a c5 in the early 80's these were casefill also and will work fine. The only difference that I know is fine thread and coarse thread on the band adjusters.

and the c5 had different servos and clutch pack differences. i wanna say a normal c4 has 5 for first and second and c5 and c6 shared the same amount of 6. but the c4/5 shared just about everything else.

waypastcrazy · 09-10-2008, 09:00 AM

You have to be careful about depth of bell and what convertor matches because there are 2 depth bells for the case filled 6 3/4 and 5 7/8 inch and the pan filled is 6 1/4 deep.

coupe · 09-10-2008, 10:17 AM

Flywheels are screwey too...Those mustang II's had a smaller flywheel (Like 148 tooth) along with a clutch that we cannot even get parts to build anymore. Definitely the "red-headed-stepchild" of the mustang world.

08-17-2008, 08:32 AM	#1
SlowJoe Mind Blowing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dawsonville Ga Posts: 3,913	c4 ??????? did the mid 70s cobra II have a different bell housing than other c4s. if so can u swap them out? __________________ Slow Joe Racing 2008 dodge ram 5.7 HEMI 1993 lx with a 289 and a 3 speed on the floor WTB 1955 t-bird project

08-17-2008, 09:02 AM	#2
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	I wouldn't think so. To my knowledge all 302's had the same bolt pattern __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

08-17-2008, 09:19 AM	#3
SlowJoe Mind Blowing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dawsonville Ga Posts: 3,913	A guy has one and said the bell was smaller in length. __________________ Slow Joe Racing 2008 dodge ram 5.7 HEMI 1993 lx with a 289 and a 3 speed on the floor WTB 1955 t-bird project

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04 Mach1 Bet I red light B4U Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ANNISTON, AL Posts: 975	Yes they have 2 different bellhousing setups. Casefill and Panfill, the casefill is smaller this is the one you need for the fox bodies the full lengths headers work without any issue. They made a c5 in the early 80's these were casefill also and will work fine. The only difference that I know is fine thread and coarse thread on the band adjusters. __________________ 89 gt 2.3 stroked holley head with n12n port high flow intake with great big fart can skunk 2 seat belts with kool glow water squirters and new light up shift knob basically everything from wal-mart art carr C4 10.53@127.3 w/ 1.53 60' 89 gt vert 347 eldebrock heads and intake AOD w/3000 stall unknown with 5spd went 12.7 on steet tires 04 Mach1 automatic flowmaster K+N drop in 13.9

08-17-2008, 01:26 PM	#5
SlowJoe Mind Blowing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dawsonville Ga Posts: 3,913	hmmm so maybe this is just the small bell housing c4. he said they only put these in the cobra 2s. he may just be wrong. i knew the case and pan fill styles but he is saying this one is not the same as ether of those. __________________ Slow Joe Racing 2008 dodge ram 5.7 HEMI 1993 lx with a 289 and a 3 speed on the floor WTB 1955 t-bird project

08-17-2008, 03:45 PM	#6
04 Mach1 Bet I red light B4U Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ANNISTON, AL Posts: 975	Yes the bellhousing unbolt. The smaller bellhousing bolt to the case threw the front pump. Large bellhousing have their own set of bolts that hold them to the case. I beleive all case fills have the smaller bellhousing. As far as corba II having a even smaller bellhousing I don't think thats right. __________________ 89 gt 2.3 stroked holley head with n12n port high flow intake with great big fart can skunk 2 seat belts with kool glow water squirters and new light up shift knob basically everything from wal-mart art carr C4 10.53@127.3 w/ 1.53 60' 89 gt vert 347 eldebrock heads and intake AOD w/3000 stall unknown with 5spd went 12.7 on steet tires 04 Mach1 automatic flowmaster K+N drop in 13.9

08-17-2008, 09:37 PM	#7
EHardy1971 Trunk Monkey Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Home Posts: 5,708	Yep,one was a 157 tooth bellhousing,where the other was a 164 tooth,and Like Marc said,one was a case fill (157 tooth),and the other was pan fill (164 tooth). __________________ Eric 89 LX Coupe-Juiced 01 Lightning-Boost 06 TBSS

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09-10-2008, 10:17 AM	#10
coupe Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,313	Flywheels are screwey too...Those mustang II's had a smaller flywheel (Like 148 tooth) along with a clutch that we cannot even get parts to build anymore. Definitely the "red-headed-stepchild" of the mustang world. __________________ " If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. " - Albert Einstein