Anyone running a wideband - Page 3

99LS1 · 01-23-2005, 09:16 AM

I know, I was saying it just displays both at the same time.

Wicked · 01-23-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 99LS1

I know, I was saying it just displays both at the same time.

93Cobra#2771 · 01-24-2005, 09:18 AM

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Since the narrow-band output of any wide-band O2 mimics the voltage of your stock sensors, you can actually use it to run an AutoMeter AF guage. Since this output is more precise than the factory O2's, the AutoMeter guage is no longer just a "light show" and becomes a usable "at a glance" AF diagnostic meter.

Even better than that, you can get a converter that allows the autometer a/f gauge to read correctly the wide band signal from a wideband. I know PLX sells them, and autometer sells them, but am not sure about the others. You would have to know the transfer curve for whatever particular wideband you are using (they are different, kinda like a MAF transfer curve)...

93Cobra#2771 · 01-24-2005, 09:19 AM

This is why you can get some wide bands without any gauges - allows you to either simply datalog it, or use your own a/f gauge to match all your other gauges...

Sendero · 01-31-2005, 07:01 PM

Richard,

You made a decision yet? I am seriously leaning towards the Zeitronix because I like the idea of not having to hack my stock EEC harness.

Does the PLX Device have any advantages that I am not aware of?

99LS1 · 01-31-2005, 08:44 PM

have you looked at innovative lm1 or aem unit?

and haven't really looked at this to see if it's dsm specific, but it's there.

http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/wbo2.htm

93Cobra#2771 · 02-01-2005, 06:44 AM

Haven't yet made a decision. One thing to note on narrowband emulation - some don't like running two types of O2's. Even though it should be identical, you still have a conversion process happening with the wideband that's not happening with the NB. This could effect how you car runs, as the conversion does slow down the reaction time of the signal going back to the EEC from the WB.

One school of thought is to run dual widebands. That way the conversion is the same between both banks of cylinders. Another is to simply avoid the narrow band emulation all together and simply have an additional bung welded in. I have heard that PLX has said not to mix and match O2's as well.

I will say that there are some out there running narrowband emulation without any problems that I'm aware of. So, the short story is that I still haven't decided.

EZ SPEED · 02-01-2005, 07:03 AM

As soon as I get my SCT Pro Racer software and get my access to the Modular Depot tuning room, I am gonna' see what brand of WB most everyone is going with.
I am thinking seriously about getting one.

tacbear · 02-07-2005, 09:14 AM

Anyone have prices on this stuff, I will be installing one on "Project V2 SQ", right now I am leaning towards a Wideband Commander, I can get one from T & J for about $465.00.

Italian LX · 02-07-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tacbear

Anyone have prices on this stuff, I will be installing one on "Project V2 SQ", right now I am leaning towards a Wideband Commander, I can get one from T & J for about $465.00.

$445 (shipped) on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4524200446

However, I would think it would be worth spending the extra $20 through Tim; that way you have a good custoimer relation and an easy point of cantact if something goes wrong with it.

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99LS1 WWIP Saving for Evo XXI Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: You like my biodata. B-i-o-d-a-t-a! Posts: 1,693	Re: Anyone running a wideband have you looked at innovative lm1 or aem unit? and haven't really looked at this to see if it's dsm specific, but it's there. http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/wbo2.htm __________________ 08 cbr 1000 73 mach 1

02-01-2005, 07:03 AM	#28
EZ SPEED Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tempe Arizona Posts: 3,029	Re: Anyone running a wideband As soon as I get my SCT Pro Racer software and get my access to the Modular Depot tuning room, I am gonna' see what brand of WB most everyone is going with. I am thinking seriously about getting one. __________________ 2020 Range Rover Sport HSE P525 Dynamic - Firenze Red - Supercharged 5.0 - 518 HP SOLD - 2010 Camaro SS [/B] - Featured in GM High Tech Performance and Camaro Now Magazines - http://www.superchevy.com/features/g...of-perfection/

02-01-2005, 06:44 AM	#27
93Cobra#2771 The Kocky One Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Yeah, but those cutters won't bust any walnuts.â„¢ Posts: 1,948	Re: Anyone running a wideband Haven't yet made a decision. One thing to note on narrowband emulation - some don't like running two types of O2's. Even though it should be identical, you still have a conversion process happening with the wideband that's not happening with the NB. This could effect how you car runs, as the conversion does slow down the reaction time of the signal going back to the EEC from the WB. One school of thought is to run dual widebands. That way the conversion is the same between both banks of cylinders. Another is to simply avoid the narrow band emulation all together and simply have an additional bung welded in. I have heard that PLX has said not to mix and match O2's as well. I will say that there are some out there running narrowband emulation without any problems that I'm aware of. So, the short story is that I still haven't decided. __________________ *For Sale: Reproduction Window Stickers, 87+ Mustangs, Cobras, Lightnings, and HD F150!* Richard White 93 Cobra Kocky will be back!

02-07-2005, 09:14 AM	#29
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