ignition pats help

Shorty · 01-20-2009, 11:30 AM

long story short. the other night when the temp dropped down so low, my car like to have never started. eventually it did, however it ran really badly for several miles then cleared up. the following morning it wouldn't start no matter how many times i have tried. got to be something in the ignition because it turning over great and you can smell the raw fuel. its not the coil. i know there is something in the distributor that controls spark (i think anyway). what all other options are there. need to get this back on the road since it our only means of transportation. my luck some jack ass with no insurance totaled my wife's car. thanks for alll suggestions.

qkjuicedpony · 01-20-2009, 11:31 AM

The stator in the dist has been known to go out with temp changes like we have had

militarymustang88gt · 01-20-2009, 02:55 PM

it could also be that it is just cold as crap and you cranking it over for any period of time is not letting the spark catch up to it before it starts to flood the motor. after a mile or two it will clear up. next time turn it over for five seconds if it doesnt start open the throttle all the way and keep it there till it cranks. the eec4 system cuts fuel on start up if it is held. mine used to do that till some one told me to try it and i never have problems anymore.

tayzoid1 · 01-20-2009, 05:19 PM

my module inside my distributor went bad on my old car i had the problem like you are having and then all of the sudden bam it quit, going down the road replaced the outside module on the side of the dizzy and then had to break down the whole thing to a housing and shaft and replace the inside one

qkjuicedpony · 01-20-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tayzoid1

my module inside my distributor went bad on my old car i had the problem like you are having and then all of the sudden bam it quit, going down the road replaced the outside module on the side of the dizzy and then had to break down the whole thing to a housing and shaft and replace the inside one

Thats the stator

QWKSNKE · 01-20-2009, 05:27 PM

Is this occuring on your GT or another car?

Shorty · 01-21-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

Is this occuring on your GT or another car?

its on the GT. making matters worse the car is not at home. i would imagine that if the distributor has to be removed that my timing is going to be jacked after replacing it. is that correct? which leads me to also aquiring a timing light. isn't the gear at the bottom of the shaft sometimes rather difficult to remove.

coupe · 01-21-2009, 02:24 PM

Distributor swap is a piece of cake...even without a timing gun, you can get it real close. Another thing I was thinking was with the low-low freezing temperatures we've had, there might be moisture or water frozen on something causing it to either remain open or shut...then with engine temp, it remedies itself.

Just a suggestion.

QWKSNKE · 01-21-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty

its on the GT. making matters worse the car is not at home. i would imagine that if the distributor has to be removed that my timing is going to be jacked after replacing it. is that correct? which leads me to also aquiring a timing light. isn't the gear at the bottom of the shaft sometimes rather difficult to remove.

I will be out of the country starting Sunday but if Brian has time to fool with it you guys can use the truck and trailer

Shorty · 01-22-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

I will be out of the country starting Sunday but if Brian has time to fool with it you guys can use the truck and trailer

thanks so much. i truly hope it doesn't come to that. i am thinking that surely i can pull the dizzy without turning the button too far off. at least within a amount less enough i can get it timed again under its own power.

to be curious, what is going on out of country.

01-20-2009, 11:30 AM	#1
Shorty Pr0j3ct P1mp T1t3, y0! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere wondering why Crimson stole my avatar Posts: 2,022	ignition pats help long story short. the other night when the temp dropped down so low, my car like to have never started. eventually it did, however it ran really badly for several miles then cleared up. the following morning it wouldn't start no matter how many times i have tried. got to be something in the ignition because it turning over great and you can smell the raw fuel. its not the coil. i know there is something in the distributor that controls spark (i think anyway). what all other options are there. need to get this back on the road since it our only means of transportation. my luck some jack ass with no insurance totaled my wife's car. thanks for alll suggestions. __________________ 93 GT----225rwhp/287rwtq--------1/4 mile= (but getting better)

01-20-2009, 11:31 AM	#2
qkjuicedpony Dayuuuuuuum!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dallas GA Posts: 2,933	The stator in the dist has been known to go out with temp changes like we have had __________________ 86 Mustang Gt......Mods piling up in my garage. 07 F350 dooly.....Tows my fifth wheel

01-20-2009, 02:55 PM	#3
militarymustang88gt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: bham and auburn Posts: 337	it could also be that it is just cold as crap and you cranking it over for any period of time is not letting the spark catch up to it before it starts to flood the motor. after a mile or two it will clear up. next time turn it over for five seconds if it doesnt start open the throttle all the way and keep it there till it cranks. the eec4 system cuts fuel on start up if it is held. mine used to do that till some one told me to try it and i never have problems anymore. __________________ finally got my avatar. it is the white one.

01-20-2009, 05:19 PM	#4
tayzoid1 5.slo stanger Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: oxford alabama Posts: 735	my module inside my distributor went bad on my old car i had the problem like you are having and then all of the sudden bam it quit, going down the road replaced the outside module on the side of the dizzy and then had to break down the whole thing to a housing and shaft and replace the inside one __________________ no mustangs anymore but i do have a 1jz swapped 83 supra

01-20-2009, 05:27 PM	#6
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Is this occuring on your GT or another car? __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

01-21-2009, 02:24 PM	#8
coupe Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,313	Distributor swap is a piece of cake...even without a timing gun, you can get it real close. Another thing I was thinking was with the low-low freezing temperatures we've had, there might be moisture or water frozen on something causing it to either remain open or shut...then with engine temp, it remedies itself. Just a suggestion. __________________ " If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. " - Albert Einstein