Sn95 Pbr Caliper Swap

joker · 05-03-2005, 09:11 PM

I am still on the fence as to if this is actually a good idea or not, being that you are removing metal from the spindles, but I figured it would be good tech info for anyones that wants to do the swap.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/2009.shtml

96GTS · 05-04-2005, 01:44 PM

We dont drive space ships. Do you realize how LITTLE material you need to take off? Do it. I spent $50 for my 2000 calipers. worth every penny.

joker · 05-04-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 96GTS

We dont drive space ships. Do you realize how LITTLE material you need to take off? Do it. I spent $50 for my 2000 calipers. worth every penny.

Where did you get your calipers and mounting brackets from?

Italian LX · 05-04-2005, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96GTS

We dont drive space ships. Do you realize how LITTLE material you need to take off? Do it. I spent $50 for my 2000 calipers. worth every penny.

Yeah, I've heard that it's very little material that needs to be removed, but since I didn't know through personal experience, I wasn't going to say anything.

96GTS · 05-04-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joker

Where did you get your calipers and mounting brackets from?

A friend of mine went to Cobra brakes.

bill302 · 11-28-2006, 12:07 AM

pbr brakes i purchased for $50,the upgrade is wellworth it.

pbr brakes installed with drilled and slotted rotors look good and i have alot better stopping power i used wagner thermoquiet pads.

before install

after install

this site http://sn95brakes.com/sn95brakes.php
will help you with the install its very simple....you can contact me for more info on this swap. basically you just remove the old calipers and grind about 5mm off each "ear" of the caliper mounting bolt hole which took me about 10 minutes to do both with a hand grinder, the link above will give you exact grinding locations (pics.). and i had to purchase 2 banjo bolts 95 models and down have the coarse threads the 96 models and up pbr brakes have the fine threads. i purchased fine thread the banjo bolts at the dealer for $12. usually when you buy a set of pbr's the seller keeps the original banjo bolts for his upgrade application. you can use the stock rubber brake lines but the passenger side will have to have the boss that the banjo bolt attaches thru ground on one end about 1/8th of an inch will need to be removed to fit into recessed area simple to do took 3 mins. then i sold my old calipers on e-bay for $30... total cost $50 for pbr's,$12 for banjo bolts,$17 for caliper paint,new pads $45,had fluid on hand i took this opportunity to flush the entire system.minus $30 for selling old calipers = $94 well worth it where else can you get double caliper pistons for that price....and if you wan't to rebuild them before application i believe you can get a rebuild kit for less than $10. http://sn95brakes.com/sn95brakes.php

and also the people at maximum motorsports http://www.maximummotorsports.com/ are very knowledgable on this subject. they can tell you everything you need for just about any brake application and sell you the parts you need. they helped me alot during this application with accurate information.

Sendero · 11-28-2006, 08:32 AM

I put PBR calipers on my 89GT. The amount of material that needs to be removed can be done with a dremel. As long as you don't use a plasma torch to remove the metal, you won't critically weaken the spindles. I'll post up pictures of my swap when I get home.

EZ SPEED · 11-28-2006, 09:59 AM

If you saw how much material I had to remove from my rear calipers to run 15" Bogart wheels for Slicks .. . . you wouldnt even worry about that little bit of metal removal

natedawgg94 · 11-28-2006, 12:32 PM

k i'm curious on this now but i can't check out the link here at work. what's the deal here are these pbr's off mustang gt's or cobra's? reason i'm asking is i've seen some on ebay that supposely came off a mach 1 guessing these are not the same? can anyone give me the quick version on here?

rtusnake · 11-28-2006, 03:29 PM

They come off the newer 99 up gt. Pretty sure the mach one has cobra brakes as well.

05-03-2005, 09:11 PM	#1
joker Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Colorado Posts: 2,452	Sn95 Pbr Caliper Swap I am still on the fence as to if this is actually a good idea or not, being that you are removing metal from the spindles, but I figured it would be good tech info for anyones that wants to do the swap. http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/2009.shtml

05-04-2005, 01:44 PM	#2
96GTS Mine's bigger... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,060	Re: Sn95 Pbr Caliper Swap We dont drive space ships. Do you realize how LITTLE material you need to take off? Do it. I spent $50 for my 2000 calipers. worth every penny. __________________ 323rwhp \| 320rwtq - 4VNA 12.13 @ 113.36 \| 1.63 60'

11-28-2006, 12:07 AM	#6
bill302 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 155	pbr brakes i purchased for $50,the upgrade is wellworth it. pbr brakes installed with drilled and slotted rotors look good and i have alot better stopping power i used wagner thermoquiet pads. before install after install this site http://sn95brakes.com/sn95brakes.php will help you with the install its very simple....you can contact me for more info on this swap. basically you just remove the old calipers and grind about 5mm off each "ear" of the caliper mounting bolt hole which took me about 10 minutes to do both with a hand grinder, the link above will give you exact grinding locations (pics.). and i had to purchase 2 banjo bolts 95 models and down have the coarse threads the 96 models and up pbr brakes have the fine threads. i purchased fine thread the banjo bolts at the dealer for $12. usually when you buy a set of pbr's the seller keeps the original banjo bolts for his upgrade application. you can use the stock rubber brake lines but the passenger side will have to have the boss that the banjo bolt attaches thru ground on one end about 1/8th of an inch will need to be removed to fit into recessed area simple to do took 3 mins. then i sold my old calipers on e-bay for $30... total cost $50 for pbr's,$12 for banjo bolts,$17 for caliper paint,new pads $45,had fluid on hand i took this opportunity to flush the entire system.minus $30 for selling old calipers = $94 well worth it where else can you get double caliper pistons for that price....and if you wan't to rebuild them before application i believe you can get a rebuild kit for less than $10. http://sn95brakes.com/sn95brakes.php and also the people at maximum motorsports http://www.maximummotorsports.com/ are very knowledgable on this subject. they can tell you everything you need for just about any brake application and sell you the parts you need. they helped me alot during this application with accurate information. __________________ 1995 GT,TKO500,cobra intake,pro5.0 shifter,King Cobra Clutch,Compucar n2o wetkit,BBK underdrive pulleys,custom x pipe,flowmasters,2.5" exhaust,3"chrometips,Hooker shortys,chrome Cobra R rims w/ 05 spinners,PBR double piston calipers,aluminum driveshaft,MSD coil,Accel wires,K&N filter,CAI,3.73 gears. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2138402 Last edited by bill302; 11-28-2006 at 12:13 AM.

11-28-2006, 08:32 AM	#7
Sendero Im gonna show her my... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere providing FREE tech support. Posts: 4,269	I put PBR calipers on my 89GT. The amount of material that needs to be removed can be done with a dremel. As long as you don't use a plasma torch to remove the metal, you won't critically weaken the spindles. I'll post up pictures of my swap when I get home. __________________ I heard it on the internet, so it must be true. "I believe that a person's moral compass can be determined by how he references free men the right to defend themselves." T. Nugent "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." R. Heinlein "Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience." -Unknown

11-28-2006, 09:59 AM	#8
EZ SPEED Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tempe Arizona Posts: 3,029	If you saw how much material I had to remove from my rear calipers to run 15" Bogart wheels for Slicks .. . . you wouldnt even worry about that little bit of metal removal __________________ 2020 Range Rover Sport HSE P525 Dynamic - Firenze Red - Supercharged 5.0 - 518 HP SOLD - 2010 Camaro SS [/B] - Featured in GM High Tech Performance and Camaro Now Magazines - http://www.superchevy.com/features/g...of-perfection/

11-28-2006, 12:32 PM	#9
natedawgg94 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohatchee, AL Posts: 713	k i'm curious on this now but i can't check out the link here at work. what's the deal here are these pbr's off mustang gt's or cobra's? reason i'm asking is i've seen some on ebay that supposely came off a mach 1 guessing these are not the same? can anyone give me the quick version on here? __________________ 1994 Cobra Pace Car #365 of 1000 light mods 1994 mustang GT 3.55's, 331 stroker, 75mm tb, 75mm maf, mac h pipe SOLD (ole yella u will be missed ((>>. Rubbing Is Racing

11-28-2006, 03:29 PM	#10
rtusnake Halfshaft Killer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Kingdom Posts: 3,910	They come off the newer 99 up gt. Pretty sure the mach one has cobra brakes as well. __________________ 03 Cobra 06 F250 (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")