What to do?

darkside · 10-11-2009, 06:25 PM

So right now, I am stang-less..

I have plans for a fox body build later on, but right now, I'm in the market for a good daily driver Mustang. I've always wanted a 03-04 Cobra, but at the same time, I'm really kind of sick of the 99-04 Body/Interior as it seems everyone and their mother has one around here.

I really like the 05-09, the interior looks awesome, They sound great with exhausts, but, I know nothing about them, power wise, how they respond to mod's, what kind of 1/8 times can be had out of them etc. I know there are a few 05+ owners here, so what do you think about your Stang? What mods are done to it, and what 1/8 times have you seen?

I don't plan to buy a 05 just to tear up on the track, but a few passes will be made every now and then, and I don't want to be out there in a slow stock GT. So what do you guys think?

asilver2001gt · 10-11-2009, 06:50 PM

I've had a 97 V6, 89 LX Coupe, 92 GT Hatch, 01 GT, and an 07 GT. Love my 07! Best Mustang I've ever owned. Granted I've never had an 03-04 Cobra to compare to but my 07 rides better than any of the above. I've driven enough cars to know that this has the most potential N/A. The 03-04 Cobra does not count. Anytime you have a blower on a car there are simple things you can do like a pulley change to make more power. I bought the car used and was bone stock down to the paper filter. When I hammer on the car I can feel the car has tons of potential. It has more in it than I'm giving it. It needs a tune, gears, cold air kit, and a converter. There are plenty of guys running high 12's with very few bolt ons. I know that there are a few guys on the s197 forums chasing the 11 sec N/A goal without going into the motor (i.e. cams, stroker kit, heads, etc).

3V FTMFW!!!!!!!!!

TheJeanyus · 10-11-2009, 07:22 PM

Having driven both an '03 Cobra and an '08 GT, there are things I like about each more than the other.

'03/4 Cobra: Great power stock and with a few cheap mods they make more power than you really need in a daily driver...but you can still daily drive 'em. Unless you feel like replacing tires every 10k miles or less, you'll have street tires on it...which means NO traction if you mod it a little. The balance between handling and ride quality is good IMO, even with aftermarket springs. The seats and interior leave a lot to be desired.

S197: Felt sluggish to me (stock), but with a few mods they really wake up I hear. Again a good balance of handling and ride quality. The seats and interior are much nicer than the older cars, but the "driving experience" feels a bit numb to me. I just wasn't "excited" by it.

For a daily driver, the S197 is probably a better car. It's way more comfortable and still makes enough power to have fun with.

darkside · 10-11-2009, 07:58 PM

Great responses guys, I was expecting " Cobra FTW" lol

I saw a 05+ GT at the strip a while back, it was N/A and was running 7.90's, I never got a chance to talk to the owner, but couldn't hear a turbo/charger, so it was either N/A or spray.But I hear the 05+ are more sturdy cars, than any previous Mustang which makes me lean towards it.

Silver01, How do you think your car would be if it were manual? Because, I've owned a Automatic mustang once,and I do not care to own another Automatic.

Doesn't the 05 with 3V supposed to make 310 hp? That's flywheel I assume? That right there says it has tons of potential, to be a quick,fun,enjoyable DD.

rtusnake · 10-11-2009, 08:09 PM

My buddys 08 gt went a best of 12.74@108 with exhaust, intake and canned tune so far. They have good power for stock. I believe it was around 8.0-8.1 something in the 1/8th

asilver2001gt · 10-11-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by darkside

Great responses guys, I was expecting " Cobra FTW" lol

I saw a 05+ GT at the strip a while back, it was N/A and was running 7.90's, I never got a chance to talk to the owner, but couldn't hear a turbo/charger, so it was either N/A or spray.But I hear the 05+ are more sturdy cars, than any previous Mustang which makes me lean towards it.

Silver01, How do you think your car would be if it were manual? Because, I've owned a Automatic mustang once,and I do not care to own another Automatic.

Doesn't the 05 with 3V supposed to make 310 hp? That's flywheel I assume? That right there says it has tons of potential, to be a quick,fun,enjoyable DD.

Dude I'm telling you the autos in these cars are stout. I hesitated about buying an auto but the deal I got on this car was too good to pass up. The autos in these cars are nothing like the previous years.The 5R55S is no way in comparison to the 4R70W. Read on s197forum.com a lot of guys sing the praises of the autos and a few have switched from manuals to auto. Maybe lee will chime in about his 08 GT 5 speed.

darkside · 10-11-2009, 09:24 PM

Yeah I just really don't want another automatic. Just doesn't feel right at all.

QWKSNKE · 10-11-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asilver2001gt

I've had a 97 V6, 89 LX Coupe, 92 GT Hatch, 01 GT, and an 07 GT. Love my 07! Best Mustang I've ever owned. Granted I've never had an 03-04 Cobra to compare to but my 07 rides better than any of the above. I've driven enough cars to know that this has the most potential N/A. The 03-04 Cobra does not count. Anytime you have a blower on a car there are simple things you can do like a pulley change to make more power. I bought the car used and was bone stock down to the paper filter. When I hammer on the car I can feel the car has tons of potential. It has more in it than I'm giving it. It needs a tune, gears, cold air kit, and a converter. There are plenty of guys running high 12's with very few bolt ons. I know that there are a few guys on the s197 forums chasing the 11 sec N/A goal without going into the motor (i.e. cams, stroker kit, heads, etc).

3V FTMFW!!!!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by asilver2001gt

Dude I'm telling you the autos in these cars are stout. I hesitated about buying an auto but the deal I got on this car was too good to pass up. The autos in these cars are nothing like the previous years.The 5R55S is no way in comparison to the 4R70W. Read on s197forum.com a lot of guys sing the praises of the autos and a few have switched from manuals to auto. Maybe lee will chime in about his 08 GT 5 speed.

I agree with Rob. I have owned each of the body styles from 83 up. There are a lot of good things in the S197. Tune + gears + a handling pack make for a nice car.
Autos do not rob near as much power in the s197 body style as the earlier models. Based off the power that GIJoe put his 5r55 through, I would say they can handle around 600rwhp well

darkside · 10-11-2009, 09:41 PM

QWK, is yours automatic too?

QWKSNKE · 10-11-2009, 09:42 PM

mine is a 5 speed manual.

10-11-2009, 06:25 PM	#1
darkside marlboro man Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 373	What to do? So right now, I am stang-less.. I have plans for a fox body build later on, but right now, I'm in the market for a good daily driver Mustang. I've always wanted a 03-04 Cobra, but at the same time, I'm really kind of sick of the 99-04 Body/Interior as it seems everyone and their mother has one around here. I really like the 05-09, the interior looks awesome, They sound great with exhausts, but, I know nothing about them, power wise, how they respond to mod's, what kind of 1/8 times can be had out of them etc. I know there are a few 05+ owners here, so what do you think about your Stang? What mods are done to it, and what 1/8 times have you seen? I don't plan to buy a 05 just to tear up on the track, but a few passes will be made every now and then, and I don't want to be out there in a slow stock GT. So what do you guys think? __________________

10-11-2009, 06:50 PM	#2
asilver2001gt Dr Rob Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: my car is flat out retarded and lee likes it! Posts: 1,193	I've had a 97 V6, 89 LX Coupe, 92 GT Hatch, 01 GT, and an 07 GT. Love my 07! Best Mustang I've ever owned. Granted I've never had an 03-04 Cobra to compare to but my 07 rides better than any of the above. I've driven enough cars to know that this has the most potential N/A. The 03-04 Cobra does not count. Anytime you have a blower on a car there are simple things you can do like a pulley change to make more power. I bought the car used and was bone stock down to the paper filter. When I hammer on the car I can feel the car has tons of potential. It has more in it than I'm giving it. It needs a tune, gears, cold air kit, and a converter. There are plenty of guys running high 12's with very few bolt ons. I know that there are a few guys on the s197 forums chasing the 11 sec N/A goal without going into the motor (i.e. cams, stroker kit, heads, etc). 3V FTMFW!!!!!!!!! __________________ 2007 Z06--Bone Stock LS7 overpriced piece of plastic with a big ass motor 2006 Trailblazer SS: TrickFlow 215's Comp Cam 591/598 Fast 102 FLT Level VI The DD

10-11-2009, 07:22 PM	#3
TheJeanyus Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 14,774	Having driven both an '03 Cobra and an '08 GT, there are things I like about each more than the other. '03/4 Cobra: Great power stock and with a few cheap mods they make more power than you really need in a daily driver...but you can still daily drive 'em. Unless you feel like replacing tires every 10k miles or less, you'll have street tires on it...which means NO traction if you mod it a little. The balance between handling and ride quality is good IMO, even with aftermarket springs. The seats and interior leave a lot to be desired. S197: Felt sluggish to me (stock), but with a few mods they really wake up I hear. Again a good balance of handling and ride quality. The seats and interior are much nicer than the older cars, but the "driving experience" feels a bit numb to me. I just wasn't "excited" by it. For a daily driver, the S197 is probably a better car. It's way more comfortable and still makes enough power to have fun with. __________________ 1998 Mustang GT Coupe - World's Slowest Racecar 2005 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V8 2013 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI

10-11-2009, 07:58 PM	#4
darkside marlboro man Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 373	Great responses guys, I was expecting " Cobra FTW" lol I saw a 05+ GT at the strip a while back, it was N/A and was running 7.90's, I never got a chance to talk to the owner, but couldn't hear a turbo/charger, so it was either N/A or spray.But I hear the 05+ are more sturdy cars, than any previous Mustang which makes me lean towards it. Silver01, How do you think your car would be if it were manual? Because, I've owned a Automatic mustang once,and I do not care to own another Automatic. Doesn't the 05 with 3V supposed to make 310 hp? That's flywheel I assume? That right there says it has tons of potential, to be a quick,fun,enjoyable DD. __________________

10-11-2009, 08:09 PM	#5
rtusnake Halfshaft Killer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Kingdom Posts: 3,910	My buddys 08 gt went a best of 12.74@108 with exhaust, intake and canned tune so far. They have good power for stock. I believe it was around 8.0-8.1 something in the 1/8th __________________ 03 Cobra 06 F250 (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

10-11-2009, 09:24 PM	#7
darkside marlboro man Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 373	Yeah I just really don't want another automatic. Just doesn't feel right at all. __________________

10-11-2009, 09:41 PM	#9
darkside marlboro man Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 373	QWK, is yours automatic too? __________________

10-11-2009, 09:42 PM	#10
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	mine is a 5 speed manual. __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy