An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover - Page 2

Dale McPeters · 11-22-2005, 07:19 AM

Richard,
You would be about 90% correct in making that statement as most DIY users own older model vehicles 4 to 5 years old or older. The ones that I know do anyway.
Most of the ones that own the newer cars etc. "ARE" going to SCT because they know that they can get actual support and regular updates for the software/hardware. For the older cars that I have I do not need that kind of support as I have the means to get to everything that I need. Well except for on the '93gt but that is another story. But if I were to buy something lets say like a 2006-07 GT500 Mustang unlikely but if I did do you think that I would try to tune it with anything other than SCT? It would be highly doubtful.

I can tell you that Mike G. has lost a few very knowledegable and faithful EEC-Tuner/TwEECer users to SCT just because of no public communication on the list or in the forums............
It really does make me feel bad for some of the other users that he would not consider at least sticking his head in every now and then just to let them know how things are going wether it be good or bad......or to just say "It is taking longer that I had planned etc." for some that would be worth a lot.

93Cobra#2771 · 11-22-2005, 07:42 AM

Exactly, Dale. Quite honestly, if he doesn't change his ways, I can see the tweecer going the way of the EEC tuner...

Dale McPeters · 11-22-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 93Cobra#2771

Exactly, Dale. Quite honestly, if he doesn't change his ways, I can see the tweecer going the way of the EEC tuner...

Yep, I hate to say it but I am in agreement with you on this......

Sendero · 11-22-2005, 08:19 AM

What would it take (realistically), for some of us to write software that can interface with the TwEECer hardware and do what we need it to do?

I keep saying, that if Mike was to make the software "open standards" and only sale the interface hardware, the whole community would benefit greatly. Just take a good look at Red Hat (Fedora) Linux.

Italian LX · 11-22-2005, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sendero

. . . Just take a good look at Red Hat. . .

QWKSNKE · 11-22-2005, 08:44 AM

86GT · 11-22-2005, 08:45 AM

There are many of us out there that have offered our services, but for some reason he does not want the help. He told me that nintey percent of his work is data entry for the new strategies.

This maybe true, but hire someone that has no idea what they are entering, if he is taht afarid of someone getting the memory maps. Someone is bound to hack his dat files eventually.

I currently use the PCMX and only use Cal Edit to download the binary. If he really wanted he could let the new software out but hold back the new stratigies until he has time to test them. Better yet, let the users test it for him.

Just my red hot two cents.

93Cobra#2771 · 11-22-2005, 11:04 AM

Yep, he should hire a cousin to do some data entry or SOMETHING, just so we aren't all out here swinging in the breeze...

openoffice.org is another great example of open software...

86GT · 11-22-2005, 02:21 PM

yep yep yep

Cougar5.0 · 11-26-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 93Cobra#2771

copied/pasted from the tweecer mailing list:

"it will get done when it gets done". Wow, that is professional... :shakehead

In April of 2006 it will have been, what, two years before we saw an official release of the software?

11-22-2005, 07:19 AM	#11
Dale McPeters 5.0 Block/Walnut Cracker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Working.... Posts: 2,409	Re: An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover Richard, You would be about 90% correct in making that statement as most DIY users own older model vehicles 4 to 5 years old or older. The ones that I know do anyway. Most of the ones that own the newer cars etc. "ARE" going to SCT because they know that they can get actual support and regular updates for the software/hardware. For the older cars that I have I do not need that kind of support as I have the means to get to everything that I need. Well except for on the '93gt but that is another story. But if I were to buy something lets say like a 2006-07 GT500 Mustang unlikely but if I did do you think that I would try to tune it with anything other than SCT? It would be highly doubtful. I can tell you that Mike G. has lost a few very knowledegable and faithful EEC-Tuner/TwEECer users to SCT just because of no public communication on the list or in the forums............ It really does make me feel bad for some of the other users that he would not consider at least sticking his head in every now and then just to let them know how things are going wether it be good or bad......or to just say "It is taking longer that I had planned etc." for some that would be worth a lot. __________________ '14 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 6-speed

11-22-2005, 07:42 AM	#12
93Cobra#2771 The Kocky One Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Yeah, but those cutters won't bust any walnuts.â„¢ Posts: 1,948	Re: An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover Exactly, Dale. Quite honestly, if he doesn't change his ways, I can see the tweecer going the way of the EEC tuner... __________________ *For Sale: Reproduction Window Stickers, 87+ Mustangs, Cobras, Lightnings, and HD F150!* Richard White 93 Cobra Kocky will be back!

11-22-2005, 08:19 AM	#14
Sendero Im gonna show her my... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere providing FREE tech support. Posts: 4,269	Re: An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover What would it take (realistically), for some of us to write software that can interface with the TwEECer hardware and do what we need it to do? I keep saying, that if Mike was to make the software "open standards" and only sale the interface hardware, the whole community would benefit greatly. Just take a good look at Red Hat (Fedora) Linux. __________________ I heard it on the internet, so it must be true. "I believe that a person's moral compass can be determined by how he references free men the right to defend themselves." T. Nugent "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." R. Heinlein "Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience." -Unknown

11-22-2005, 08:44 AM	#16
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

11-22-2005, 08:45 AM	#17
86GT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 449	Re: An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover There are many of us out there that have offered our services, but for some reason he does not want the help. He told me that nintey percent of his work is data entry for the new strategies. This maybe true, but hire someone that has no idea what they are entering, if he is taht afarid of someone getting the memory maps. Someone is bound to hack his dat files eventually. I currently use the PCMX and only use Cal Edit to download the binary. If he really wanted he could let the new software out but hold back the new stratigies until he has time to test them. Better yet, let the users test it for him. Just my red hot two cents. __________________ EEC Analyzer A9M, TwEECer, 306ci, 73mm C&L w Tuner Tube, Cobra Intake, 42# inj, Edelbrock 6037, E303 cam, 155 fuel pump, FPR, 70mm TB, E-Fan, 3.55 gears, Powerdyne 9psi actual 5psi...way more.

11-22-2005, 11:04 AM	#18
93Cobra#2771 The Kocky One Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Yeah, but those cutters won't bust any walnuts.â„¢ Posts: 1,948	Re: An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover Yep, he should hire a cousin to do some data entry or SOMETHING, just so we aren't all out here swinging in the breeze... openoffice.org is another great example of open software... __________________ *For Sale: Reproduction Window Stickers, 87+ Mustangs, Cobras, Lightnings, and HD F150!* Richard White 93 Cobra Kocky will be back!

11-22-2005, 02:21 PM	#19
86GT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 449	Re: An update, of sorts, from Mike Glover yep yep yep __________________ EEC Analyzer A9M, TwEECer, 306ci, 73mm C&L w Tuner Tube, Cobra Intake, 42# inj, Edelbrock 6037, E303 cam, 155 fuel pump, FPR, 70mm TB, E-Fan, 3.55 gears, Powerdyne 9psi actual 5psi...way more.