Steele 07/06 #'s Disapointing! - Page 2

Italian LX · 07-12-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 99LS1

The replacement for displacement is forced induction

Threre's not many imports that can put down 410/459 to the wheels on pump gas.

99LS1 · 07-12-2007, 12:25 PM

haha! not many domestics either by the looks of these threads.

Italian LX · 07-12-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 99LS1

haha! not many domestics either by the looks of these threads.

Don't limit yourself to this site. Go ahead and find me a pump-gas 4-cylinder that puts down 450 ft-lbs of torque.

99LS1 · 07-12-2007, 01:52 PM

Who cares. Do lighter cars need huge amounts of torque? Why do I need to make 450ftlbs if I can rev it to the moon and make power? If my basic setup nets 300whp/300ftlbs on pump, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Turbo 4 bangers make plenty of torque.

Arguing high hp DSM or EVO cars doesn't work, there's plenty of examples out there. Just google it, I'm around them enough and not going to nutswing for people. We're not talking about some cheesy 1.6 honda motor here.

DSMTimes.org if you can't find enough dyno slips would show you enough results. Sorry if they don't have the torque readings. Let's argue gas mileage next!

Brian, looks like nothings changed. Keep it coming!

Looks like there's still plenty to argue about on here

Skillet · 07-12-2007, 02:31 PM

Revving to the moon is for F1 cars.

TheJeanyus · 07-12-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet

Revving to the moon is for F1 cars.

Looks like he needs to rev that Supra up to about 8k to have any fun.

Italian LX · 07-12-2007, 02:37 PM

Let's reflect back on how we came to this point. . .

Skillet started it by saying:

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Originally Posted by Skillet

There is no replacement for displacement no matter what the imports say.

Then you came in and said:

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Originally Posted by 99LS1

The replacement for displacement is forced induction

Then I came in calling you out asking you to prove it and you just came back with a bunch of other points that were not even relavent to the original statement.

TheJeanyus · 07-12-2007, 02:41 PM

99LS1 · 07-12-2007, 03:48 PM

I will buy you a cookie for building a stroked motor that puts down huge torque. It always doesn't involving comparing torque numbers per your response. Or even hp numbers for that matter. Dyno numbers are not the end results, the end result is good 1/4. I think we all appreciate high hp charts but if it doens't put out a good time we laugh and call it a "dyno queen"

But back to the original statement, and I didn't ask you for any domestic hp/tq results as you asked me. First because I'm capable of searching google, and secondly this is a really dumb argument. Forced induction is a replacement for displacement, this isn't 1971 anymore. There are more than a few high hp cars running around, just search. I'm not going to waste time proving something I've seen, it's pretty prevelant these days. It's called high-revving motors that have forced induction in a light chasis. Or even a heavy chasis since some have bigger motors. Supra, 300zx, Evos, etc. Not rocket science!

At the import shootout in steele earlier this year, the bump in the street tire was 11.7! And that was for a top 8. Plenty of cars there didn't make it.

Italian LX · 07-12-2007, 03:50 PM

Just remember.... WWIP.

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99LS1 WWIP Saving for Evo XXI Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: You like my biodata. B-i-o-d-a-t-a! Posts: 1,693	Who cares. Do lighter cars need huge amounts of torque? Why do I need to make 450ftlbs if I can rev it to the moon and make power? If my basic setup nets 300whp/300ftlbs on pump, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Turbo 4 bangers make plenty of torque. Arguing high hp DSM or EVO cars doesn't work, there's plenty of examples out there. Just google it, I'm around them enough and not going to nutswing for people. We're not talking about some cheesy 1.6 honda motor here. DSMTimes.org if you can't find enough dyno slips would show you enough results. Sorry if they don't have the torque readings. Let's argue gas mileage next! Brian, looks like nothings changed. Keep it coming! Looks like there's still plenty to argue about on here __________________ 08 cbr 1000 73 mach 1

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07-12-2007, 03:48 PM	#19
99LS1 WWIP Saving for Evo XXI Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: You like my biodata. B-i-o-d-a-t-a! Posts: 1,693	I will buy you a cookie for building a stroked motor that puts down huge torque. It always doesn't involving comparing torque numbers per your response. Or even hp numbers for that matter. Dyno numbers are not the end results, the end result is good 1/4. I think we all appreciate high hp charts but if it doens't put out a good time we laugh and call it a "dyno queen" But back to the original statement, and I didn't ask you for any domestic hp/tq results as you asked me. First because I'm capable of searching google, and secondly this is a really dumb argument. Forced induction is a replacement for displacement, this isn't 1971 anymore. There are more than a few high hp cars running around, just search. I'm not going to waste time proving something I've seen, it's pretty prevelant these days. It's called high-revving motors that have forced induction in a light chasis. Or even a heavy chasis since some have bigger motors. Supra, 300zx, Evos, etc. Not rocket science! At the import shootout in steele earlier this year, the bump in the street tire was 11.7! And that was for a top 8. Plenty of cars there didn't make it. __________________ 08 cbr 1000 73 mach 1 Last edited by 99LS1; 07-12-2007 at 03:57 PM.

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