Not going into closed loop at idle - Page 2

QWKSNKE · 03-27-2006, 05:53 PM

ok. So if adaptive is off, it will not go into closed loop at idle?

86GT · 03-27-2006, 09:59 PM

True if adaptive is off it will not go into CL. Remember there are two things to remember about adaptive. One it can be disabled completley or two it can have the leaning ability disabled for a particular RPM and Load.

What are you doing to disable the adaptive?

QWKSNKE · 03-28-2006, 02:56 AM

it is turned off by reversing the act adaptive min/max temps in scalars.

Ok, now that I realize adaptive has been turned off since going to the dyno last fall, why is the car going into closed loop anytime I am under the even the slightest acceleration?

Italian LX · 03-28-2006, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

Ok, now that I realize adaptive has been turned off since going to the dyno last fall. . .

Unless you changed it since the clutch install, adaptive should be back on. I turned it on when I had the car a couple months ago.

93Cobra#2771 · 03-28-2006, 07:29 AM

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Ok, now that I realize adaptive has been turned off since going to the dyno last fall, why is the car going into closed loop anytime I am under the even the slightest acceleration?

Because you have idle strategy, and acceleration/driving strategy. They don't work the same. Being at idle with no throttle input, the EEC uses different tables/functions/scalers, than it does during actual driving.

However, you need to check your tune and make SURE that adaptive has been enabled as Italian suggests...

QWKSNKE · 03-28-2006, 09:59 AM

Here is the file I am going to put in today (this is an old one from around the end of january. In this file, adaptive is turned on

Right click, save as
http://www.deepstageperformance.com/tweecer/LEE-002.CCF

Clint or Dale (and anyone else) let me know if you see any setting out of the ordinary. I am pretty sure that the load setting needs to be adjusted a little more

86GT · 03-28-2006, 01:33 PM

Change the time at high load from 0 to somthing like 2 and see if that has anything to do with it.

Also you changed the spark and fuel lugging time limit to 1.25. try reverting this back to 4.

What about part throttle brekpoint. you have it set to .029. This may cause the EEC to go from Part Throttle to Closed Throttle and vise versa in a cycling manner.

Just curious, why did you start with an A9L and not the X3Z?

QWKSNKE · 03-28-2006, 02:43 PM

I didn't realize that the calibration had transformed into A9L. This may have been done by Dale when we were exchanging files last fall.

Maybe he will chime in.

03-27-2006, 05:53 PM	#11
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03-27-2006, 09:59 PM	#12
86GT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 449	Re: Not going into closed loop at idle True if adaptive is off it will not go into CL. Remember there are two things to remember about adaptive. One it can be disabled completley or two it can have the leaning ability disabled for a particular RPM and Load. What are you doing to disable the adaptive? __________________ EEC Analyzer A9M, TwEECer, 306ci, 73mm C&L w Tuner Tube, Cobra Intake, 42# inj, Edelbrock 6037, E303 cam, 155 fuel pump, FPR, 70mm TB, E-Fan, 3.55 gears, Powerdyne 9psi actual 5psi...way more.

03-28-2006, 02:56 AM	#13
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Not going into closed loop at idle it is turned off by reversing the act adaptive min/max temps in scalars. Ok, now that I realize adaptive has been turned off since going to the dyno last fall, why is the car going into closed loop anytime I am under the even the slightest acceleration?

03-28-2006, 09:59 AM	#16
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Not going into closed loop at idle Here is the file I am going to put in today (this is an old one from around the end of january. In this file, adaptive is turned on Right click, save as http://www.deepstageperformance.com/tweecer/LEE-002.CCF Clint or Dale (and anyone else) let me know if you see any setting out of the ordinary. I am pretty sure that the load setting needs to be adjusted a little more

03-28-2006, 01:33 PM	#17
86GT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 449	Re: Not going into closed loop at idle Change the time at high load from 0 to somthing like 2 and see if that has anything to do with it. Also you changed the spark and fuel lugging time limit to 1.25. try reverting this back to 4. What about part throttle brekpoint. you have it set to .029. This may cause the EEC to go from Part Throttle to Closed Throttle and vise versa in a cycling manner. Just curious, why did you start with an A9L and not the X3Z? __________________ EEC Analyzer A9M, TwEECer, 306ci, 73mm C&L w Tuner Tube, Cobra Intake, 42# inj, Edelbrock 6037, E303 cam, 155 fuel pump, FPR, 70mm TB, E-Fan, 3.55 gears, Powerdyne 9psi actual 5psi...way more.

03-28-2006, 02:43 PM	#18
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Not going into closed loop at idle I didn't realize that the calibration had transformed into A9L. This may have been done by Dale when we were exchanging files last fall. Maybe he will chime in.