Another mid pipe question

The Rock 326 · 03-27-2005, 06:24 PM

I am going to a catted mid pipe. My 2 choices are Magnaflow catted X, or a Mac catted H-pipe. Both are the same price, however the guy with the H pipe is selling Flowmaster single chamber mufflers with it. What do you think as far as sound and performance?? I need to make a decision in the next few days. I could keep my cat back, or use the single chamber flows.

Thanks, Rich

86GT · 03-27-2005, 06:48 PM

Just make sure you do not mix a chambered muffler (MAC mufflers) with a X-pipe. It will rattle and sound like a tin box. It has something to do with the muffler design. It was only after I called MAC and explained to them what was happening that they told me they already knew of the issue. Go figure!!!! I wish I only would have know that before I purchased the X-Pipe.

Since then I purchased the BBK H-Pipe. It sounds great (loud and the Wife Hates it). The only thing wrong with the BBK version was that it was not a perfect fit. The hanger on the drivers side was a tad to high causing the pipe to be to high. This caused it to hit the under body. I had to goto a local muffer shop to have it fixed.

Originally I ordered the MAC H-Pipe but it was going to take 6-8 weeks so I went to BBK. I also was told the MAC pipe comes in two peices. It is split at the H. This in my opinion would make it alot easier to install.

tacbear · 03-27-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rock 326

I am going to a catted mid pipe. My 2 choices are Magnaflow catted X, or a Mac catted H-pipe. Both are the same price, however the guy with the H pipe is selling Flowmaster single chamber mufflers with it. What do you think as far as sound and performance?? I need to make a decision in the next few days. I could keep my cat back, or use the single chamber flows.

Thanks, Rich

Rich I have a catted Magnaflow "X" pipe with Magnaflow CatBack and I love it! It isn't loud until you get in it good. The fit, finish and workmanship is like a work of Art (4 years and no rust or problems).

P.S. I thought you had a ProChamber, isn't it the "Mac Daddy" of mid-pipes??

QWKSNKE · 03-27-2005, 09:00 PM

Single chamber flowmasters are loud Rich. They are more or less a race muffler, so i doubt you will want to run them

Scothew · 03-27-2005, 09:01 PM

pro-chamber sounds awesome! but its also not catted which i think is the concern at the moment for him.

The Rock 326 · 03-27-2005, 10:06 PM

Yea, I love the Prochamber, but the wife is tired of all the fumes coming up through the garage. I'm just trying to figure out wich catted pipe would be best overall, out of the 2 choices.

EZ SPEED · 03-28-2005, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 86GT

Just make sure you do not mix a chambered muffler (MAC mufflers) with a X-pipe. It will rattle and sound like a tin box. It has something to do with the muffler design. It was only after I called MAC and explained to them what was happening that they told me they already knew of the issue. Go figure!!!! I wish I only would have know that before I purchased the X-Pipe.

Sorry it didnt work out for you, but I am running MAC shorty headers, Magnaflow catted X pipe and a MAC Catback and it sounds GREAT !! (This is on my 94 Cobra) NO rattling or "tin box" sound like you describe. Maybe I just got lucky?

I have a sound clip I can email you if you want to hear it.

Oh, after Wall's post below....I just realized I was sleepy when I read this and I didnt see that you were talking about an off road x...sorry.

Wall96cobra · 03-28-2005, 04:35 AM

Hey 86GT did you have a stainless steel o/r x-pipe with your macs? I had some macs on my car with a bassani o/r x and it sounded like you described but I have heard some with regular aluminized o/r x-pipes and they sounded fine. The stainless steel has a funky metallic sound unless you have cats then it smooths out.

86GT · 03-28-2005, 08:54 AM

Maybe that is the ticket, The X was stainless. I have aluminized all the way though now. I just could not see spending the extra cash for stainless out here in California.. It does look a lot better though.

The Rock 326 · 03-28-2005, 09:05 AM

I know you guys have said it before, but what is the real diff. between H and X?? And would it be any noticable difference??

Also, since I am changing mid pipes, I think I am going to go ahead and get headers.

03-27-2005, 06:24 PM	#1
The Rock 326 Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 908	Another mid pipe question I am going to a catted mid pipe. My 2 choices are Magnaflow catted X, or a Mac catted H-pipe. Both are the same price, however the guy with the H pipe is selling Flowmaster single chamber mufflers with it. What do you think as far as sound and performance?? I need to make a decision in the next few days. I could keep my cat back, or use the single chamber flows. Thanks, Rich

03-27-2005, 06:48 PM	#2
86GT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 449	Re: Another mid pipe question Just make sure you do not mix a chambered muffler (MAC mufflers) with a X-pipe. It will rattle and sound like a tin box. It has something to do with the muffler design. It was only after I called MAC and explained to them what was happening that they told me they already knew of the issue. Go figure!!!! I wish I only would have know that before I purchased the X-Pipe. Since then I purchased the BBK H-Pipe. It sounds great (loud and the Wife Hates it). The only thing wrong with the BBK version was that it was not a perfect fit. The hanger on the drivers side was a tad to high causing the pipe to be to high. This caused it to hit the under body. I had to goto a local muffer shop to have it fixed. Originally I ordered the MAC H-Pipe but it was going to take 6-8 weeks so I went to BBK. I also was told the MAC pipe comes in two peices. It is split at the H. This in my opinion would make it alot easier to install. __________________ EEC Analyzer A9M, TwEECer, 306ci, 73mm C&L w Tuner Tube, Cobra Intake, 42# inj, Edelbrock 6037, E303 cam, 155 fuel pump, FPR, 70mm TB, E-Fan, 3.55 gears, Powerdyne 9psi actual 5psi...way more.

03-27-2005, 09:00 PM	#4
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Another mid pipe question Single chamber flowmasters are loud Rich. They are more or less a race muffler, so i doubt you will want to run them __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

03-27-2005, 09:01 PM	#5
Scothew Censored Jihad Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B'ham, AL Posts: 4,108	Re: Another mid pipe question pro-chamber sounds awesome! but its also not catted which i think is the concern at the moment for him. __________________ Theres only one way to get to Carnegie Hall..... .... Practice.

03-27-2005, 10:06 PM	#6
The Rock 326 Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 908	Re: Another mid pipe question Yea, I love the Prochamber, but the wife is tired of all the fumes coming up through the garage. I'm just trying to figure out wich catted pipe would be best overall, out of the 2 choices.

03-28-2005, 04:35 AM	#8
Wall96cobra ooooo cake!!! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saks, AL Posts: 1,630	Re: Another mid pipe question Hey 86GT did you have a stainless steel o/r x-pipe with your macs? I had some macs on my car with a bassani o/r x and it sounded like you described but I have heard some with regular aluminized o/r x-pipes and they sounded fine. The stainless steel has a funky metallic sound unless you have cats then it smooths out.

03-28-2005, 08:54 AM	#9
86GT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 449	Re: Another mid pipe question Maybe that is the ticket, The X was stainless. I have aluminized all the way though now. I just could not see spending the extra cash for stainless out here in California.. It does look a lot better though. __________________ EEC Analyzer A9M, TwEECer, 306ci, 73mm C&L w Tuner Tube, Cobra Intake, 42# inj, Edelbrock 6037, E303 cam, 155 fuel pump, FPR, 70mm TB, E-Fan, 3.55 gears, Powerdyne 9psi actual 5psi...way more.

03-28-2005, 09:05 AM	#10
The Rock 326 Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 908	Re: Another mid pipe question I know you guys have said it before, but what is the real diff. between H and X?? And would it be any noticable difference?? Also, since I am changing mid pipes, I think I am going to go ahead and get headers.