Decisions, Decisions

QWKSNKE · 12-30-2004, 08:59 AM

Well I am ready to get started on freshening up the motor in the 93. After telling myself over the last several months that all i needed was a 306 cubic inch setup, I started looking at low compression 331 cubic inch setups again today

Now I need to start removing the motor and tearing it down so that i can see what all I am going to need.

joker · 12-30-2004, 09:03 AM

Myself, I would just go with the 331. Are you going to have your stock block bored, or purchase a new shortblock? I was wondering myself how much it would run cost wise just to have my stock block changed to a 331 with forged goodies inside. It's easy to find cost on the parts, it's the cost of all the machine work that scares me.

banditmwp · 12-30-2004, 09:15 AM

I think you'd be happier with the 331, knowing your lust for speed.

QWKSNKE · 12-30-2004, 09:16 AM

I'm looking at roughly 300-400 in machine work. That's boring, acid dip, cam bearings, and some other bs I can't remember.

QWKSNKE · 12-30-2004, 09:19 AM

odds are I will stick with a 306. I am afraid my heads would be to small for a 331 displacement and if i up the heads then I will probably be at the same power level as Wall and I will also have to replace my entire fuel system like he did.

12-30-2004, 09:20 AM

dont you have 165's

petty is busy building about 16 engines right now so he'll be tied up for a few months.if you are gonna go with the 331 please just go ahead and get a 347 shortblock and be done

QWKSNKE · 12-30-2004, 09:23 AM

yes I have 165's

joker · 12-30-2004, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

I'm looking at roughly 300-400 in machine work. That's boring, acid dip, cam bearings, and some other bs I can't remember.

Are you looking at ordering a balanced stroker kit, and doing the actuall assembly yourself?

Also, a weird question about stroker kits. If you install a stroker kit, then your rods are longer than the stock rods. What I am wondering, is the longer your rods are, does that make them more prone to break? For example, if you went with a 347 stroker as opposed to a 306 stroker, would the longers rods of the 347 be more likely to break than the shorter 306 rods? Kind of like how it is harder to break a really short peice of wood or metal than it is to break a long piece. Would the same laws not allpy to rods?I know you would be going with forged rods of coarse, but it is just something I was wondering about.

QWKSNKE · 12-30-2004, 09:26 AM

yes the rods are longer but i do not believe they are that much longer.

And yes i am planning to buy a balanced kit and assemble it myself.

12-30-2004, 09:34 AM

stock rods are 5.090"

347 rods are 5.400"

the 347 will be the better choice in my opinion and it is the same price as the 331 kit....just sell someone your 165's and upgrade the heads too....oh and with either engine you will need to say bye to the cobra intake

12-30-2004, 08:59 AM	#1
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Decisions, Decisions Well I am ready to get started on freshening up the motor in the 93. After telling myself over the last several months that all i needed was a 306 cubic inch setup, I started looking at low compression 331 cubic inch setups again today Now I need to start removing the motor and tearing it down so that i can see what all I am going to need. __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

12-30-2004, 09:03 AM	#2
joker Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Colorado Posts: 2,452	Re: Decisions, Decisions Myself, I would just go with the 331. Are you going to have your stock block bored, or purchase a new shortblock? I was wondering myself how much it would run cost wise just to have my stock block changed to a 331 with forged goodies inside. It's easy to find cost on the parts, it's the cost of all the machine work that scares me.

12-30-2004, 09:15 AM	#3
banditmwp Welcome to America! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: in the 11's Posts: 4,501	Re: Decisions, Decisions I think you'd be happier with the 331, knowing your lust for speed. __________________ 91 GT Convertible 2006 Nissan Titan LE Crew Cab 2014 Peterbilt 337/Marion 22' box

12-30-2004, 09:16 AM	#4
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Decisions, Decisions I'm looking at roughly 300-400 in machine work. That's boring, acid dip, cam bearings, and some other bs I can't remember. __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

12-30-2004, 09:19 AM	#5
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Decisions, Decisions odds are I will stick with a 306. I am afraid my heads would be to small for a 331 displacement and if i up the heads then I will probably be at the same power level as Wall and I will also have to replace my entire fuel system like he did. __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

12-30-2004, 09:20 AM	#6
qkjuicedpony Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Decisions, Decisions dont you have 165's petty is busy building about 16 engines right now so he'll be tied up for a few months.if you are gonna go with the 331 please just go ahead and get a 347 shortblock and be done

12-30-2004, 09:23 AM	#7
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Decisions, Decisions yes I have 165's __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

12-30-2004, 09:26 AM	#9
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Decisions, Decisions yes the rods are longer but i do not believe they are that much longer. And yes i am planning to buy a balanced kit and assemble it myself. __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

12-30-2004, 09:34 AM	#10
qkjuicedpony Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Decisions, Decisions stock rods are 5.090" 347 rods are 5.400" the 347 will be the better choice in my opinion and it is the same price as the 331 kit....just sell someone your 165's and upgrade the heads too....oh and with either engine you will need to say bye to the cobra intake