Any cam idea's ?

SNK-BIT · 07-13-2005, 10:13 PM

First post..hope i'm in the right area.
I just bought a close to "stock" 93 Cobra and was wondering what would be the best cam for it. I know this is kind of a "loaded" question but here is where the car is and where i want it to be. As far as I know the longblock is stock. I've added a 180 degree thermostat, 13 degrees timing, BBK fenderwell cold air intake. The car was bought with FRP shorty headers, Bassani (cat's still in) X-pipe, and a Flowmaster 2 chamber cat-back system already installed. I've dyno'd (Dynojet) this combo (AF@11.3) at 242RWHP@5000 and 284RWTQ@4100. I don't really care to turn the motor past 6000rpm. I would like to keep it emission legal (cheater cam?) and was thinking of the (here it comes) E303 cam. I hear "old school" when this cam is brought up and others say "it still makes power." I'm being advised to use AFM, STEEDA, or a COMP cams instead. Are any of these other cams "e" legal? Is there something "wrong" with the FRP cams? I would like to squeeze approx 350rwhp by going the "na" route. I know thats a tall order but think it can be done. I am planing on adding a few more mods and a set of #1402 AFR165's also which are "e" legal. Any and all ideas entertained!

TheJeanyus · 07-13-2005, 10:21 PM

Welcome to the board.

It'll take a lot more than AFR 165s and an E came to make 350 rwhp. There is nothing wrong with an E cam or any of the alphabet cams for that matter, but you'll need more heads and cam and probably intake to reach 350 rwhp.

Disney Lincoln · 07-13-2005, 11:54 PM

XE270 and 165's will maek over 300.

EZ SPEED · 07-14-2005, 03:58 AM

QWKSNKE · 07-14-2005, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNK-BIT

First post..hope i'm in the right area.
I just bought a close to "stock" 93 Cobra and was wondering what would be the best cam for it. I know this is kind of a "loaded" question but here is where the car is and where i want it to be. As far as I know the longblock is stock. I've added a 180 degree thermostat, 13 degrees timing, BBK fenderwell cold air intake. The car was bought with FRP shorty headers, Bassani (cat's still in) X-pipe, and a Flowmaster 2 chamber cat-back system already installed. I've dyno'd (Dynojet) this combo (AF@11.3) at 242RWHP@5000 and 284RWTQ@4100. I don't really care to turn the motor past 6000rpm. I would like to keep it emission legal (cheater cam?) and was thinking of the (here it comes) E303 cam. I hear "old school" when this cam is brought up and others say "it still makes power." I'm being advised to use AFM, STEEDA, or a COMP cams instead. Are any of these other cams "e" legal? Is there something "wrong" with the FRP cams? I would like to squeeze approx 350rwhp by going the "na" route. I know thats a tall order but think it can be done. I am planing on adding a few more mods and a set of #1402 AFR165's also which are "e" legal. Any and all ideas entertained!

biggest thing that is going to hurt you is retaining legal emissions.

Nothing really wrong with alphabet cams but you will make more power with a custom cam.

Italian LX · 07-14-2005, 05:02 AM

Welcome to the board.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJeanyus

It'll take a lot more than AFR 165s and an E came to make 350 rwhp. There is nothing wrong with an E cam or any of the alphabet cams for that matter, but you'll need more heads and cam and probably intake to reach 350 rwhp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNK-BIT

I would like to squeeze approx 350rwhp by going the "na" route. I know thats a tall order but think it can be done.

That's a very tall order.... even without your goal to keep it emissions legal. If you want an emission legal N/A 302, I wouldn't count on breaking 300rwhp without a power adder -- it just ain't going to happen.

DSkeet · 07-14-2005, 07:32 AM

Welcome to the board, lots of nice and helpful people here!

07-14-2005, 09:30 AM

here are a few combo's for you both proven and daily driven

stock shortblock
afr 185's
f303 cam
edelbrock performer rpm II
30 lb injectors
70mm throtte body
76mm mass air
longtubes
x pipe
mac catback
5 speed and 4.30's
car has a/c and all options and makes 333rwhp as it sits today

another combo

stock shortblock
brodix st5.0 heads
f303 cam
holley systemax intake and the same fuel parts as above system

also made 332 rwhp through a 5 speed

coupe · 07-14-2005, 11:21 AM

With your 1.7RR's...
How 'bout .513 Intake, .529 Exhaust with a 276Âº/282Âº split on a 112Âº LSA?
(would be .483/.498 with 1.6 RR)

And it's emissions legal.

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...29&prmenbr=361

And the price is right too. It could do 300, but probably not 350.

ujslost · 07-14-2005, 03:34 PM

I dont know if the trickflow cams are emissions legal, but they are cheap and IMO better than the alphabet cams. Also the stock cam is still a very good cam really.
BTW not knocking anyones info in the AFR 165s, but I have a buddy has a coupe with box stock AFR 165s , trickflow intake, longtube headers,x pipe, flowmasters. 70mm TB and spacer, 24lb injectors and the rest is STOCK, stock 302 bore,STOCK cam and rotating assembly. NATURALLY ASPIRATED!
And as far as horsepower it made i have no clue, but It ran 12.20s on a tire.
Call BS if ya want (because alot of ppl have) but its the damn truth. And I know some of ya have seen it at steele.
My point, I think AFR 165s are a damn good head.

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07-14-2005, 09:30 AM	#8
qkjuicedpony Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Any cam idea's ? here are a few combo's for you both proven and daily driven stock shortblock afr 185's f303 cam edelbrock performer rpm II 30 lb injectors 70mm throtte body 76mm mass air longtubes x pipe mac catback 5 speed and 4.30's car has a/c and all options and makes 333rwhp as it sits today another combo stock shortblock brodix st5.0 heads f303 cam holley systemax intake and the same fuel parts as above system also made 332 rwhp through a 5 speed

07-13-2005, 10:13 PM	#1
SNK-BIT Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 27	Any cam idea's ? First post..hope i'm in the right area. I just bought a close to "stock" 93 Cobra and was wondering what would be the best cam for it. I know this is kind of a "loaded" question but here is where the car is and where i want it to be. As far as I know the longblock is stock. I've added a 180 degree thermostat, 13 degrees timing, BBK fenderwell cold air intake. The car was bought with FRP shorty headers, Bassani (cat's still in) X-pipe, and a Flowmaster 2 chamber cat-back system already installed. I've dyno'd (Dynojet) this combo (AF@11.3) at 242RWHP@5000 and 284RWTQ@4100. I don't really care to turn the motor past 6000rpm. I would like to keep it emission legal (cheater cam?) and was thinking of the (here it comes) E303 cam. I hear "old school" when this cam is brought up and others say "it still makes power." I'm being advised to use AFM, STEEDA, or a COMP cams instead. Are any of these other cams "e" legal? Is there something "wrong" with the FRP cams? I would like to squeeze approx 350rwhp by going the "na" route. I know thats a tall order but think it can be done. I am planing on adding a few more mods and a set of #1402 AFR165's also which are "e" legal. Any and all ideas entertained!

07-14-2005, 11:21 AM	#9
coupe Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,313	Re: Any cam idea's ? With your 1.7RR's... How 'bout .513 Intake, .529 Exhaust with a 276Âº/282Âº split on a 112Âº LSA? (would be .483/.498 with 1.6 RR) And it's emissions legal. http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...29&prmenbr=361 And the price is right too. It could do 300, but probably not 350. __________________ " If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. " - Albert Einstein

07-14-2005, 03:34 PM	#10
ujslost Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: ALBERTVILLE, AL Posts: 498	Re: Any cam idea's ? I dont know if the trickflow cams are emissions legal, but they are cheap and IMO better than the alphabet cams. Also the stock cam is still a very good cam really. BTW not knocking anyones info in the AFR 165s, but I have a buddy has a coupe with box stock AFR 165s , trickflow intake, longtube headers,x pipe, flowmasters. 70mm TB and spacer, 24lb injectors and the rest is STOCK, stock 302 bore,STOCK cam and rotating assembly. NATURALLY ASPIRATED! And as far as horsepower it made i have no clue, but It ran 12.20s on a tire. Call BS if ya want (because alot of ppl have) but its the damn truth. And I know some of ya have seen it at steele. My point, I think AFR 165s are a damn good head.