Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me...

One_live95 · 10-23-2005, 01:09 PM

I am just wondering how much slack is too much slack on my timing chain it is pretty new....however it looks to be a little slack..... I had to pull the timing cover to get out a bolt that went down the dist. hole..... and i was noticing this before the gaskets etc. went back on.....

Also, i have a cloyes double roller, with the nine keyways.......would it be beneficial to me to advace or retard the cam....... any at all...i have an FMS b-cam.......I don't know that much about this...

guess you can say watching everyone else RACE yesterday has inspired me to finish up mine..... already got the pieces for the rear on order this morning..... should be next week sometime.......lol pitiful

jason

QWKSNKE · 10-23-2005, 01:35 PM

Jason,

there will be some slack. guessing 1/8" or a little more.

Glad you are motivated to get your car done now

One_live95 · 10-23-2005, 01:37 PM

i think i have more than that..... i am gonna push slack out and take a pic, i put the breaker bar on the crank bolt and i can turn it a little(crank will actually rotate a little) before the cam catches up..... this isn't good is it.....

jason

QWKSNKE · 10-23-2005, 01:42 PM

no. that is not good

One_live95 · 10-23-2005, 01:45 PM

time to replace it, do i need another one like i have or can i just go get a basic cloyes from the parts house.......If it would be beneficial to advance the cam any i would just get another like i have now....

jason

Craig K. · 10-23-2005, 07:36 PM

I have one that I would sell to you for $20.
It is used, has about 1,000 miles (if that), these were racing miles (road racing), but the chain is still in really good shape, has three key's on the crank gear.

PM me if interested.

QWKSNKE · 10-23-2005, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_live95

time to replace it, do i need another one like i have or can i just go get a basic cloyes from the parts house.......If it would be beneficial to advance the cam any i would just get another like i have now....

jason

go ahead and get a good timing chain, all the ones that are less than $50 at the parts stores stretched quickly in my car over the last year or so. I think my last one was a edelbrock from Advance and has done well so far.

No, don't advance the cam, put it in straight up (well relatively speaking, technically it would be straight down

)

One_live95 · 10-23-2005, 10:17 PM

i am gonna wait on Craig to reply to my pm, if it isn't a "good" one, i will just get one out of summit probably the billet FRPP one...... Kinda wanted to go cheap but it will be in my best interest i guess not to....lol

i am in the process of starting another motor for my car>>>>>.

jason

coupe · 10-26-2005, 03:54 PM

If a new one goes on with a little "slack," then you might need to replace cam-bearings. Cam bearings with alot of miles and any oil starvation will wear significantly.
But a little slack is normal; really. Get the pics up.

One_live95 · 10-27-2005, 05:15 AM

i will have to check that out......... that had never occured to me..... I am pretty sure i have never had an oil starvation issue though..... If so, i will just have to put the work into the other motor a lot sooner than i thought

jason

10-23-2005, 01:09 PM	#1
One_live95 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dothan Posts: 617	Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... I am just wondering how much slack is too much slack on my timing chain it is pretty new....however it looks to be a little slack..... I had to pull the timing cover to get out a bolt that went down the dist. hole..... and i was noticing this before the gaskets etc. went back on..... Also, i have a cloyes double roller, with the nine keyways.......would it be beneficial to me to advace or retard the cam....... any at all...i have an FMS b-cam.......I don't know that much about this... guess you can say watching everyone else RACE yesterday has inspired me to finish up mine..... already got the pieces for the rear on order this morning..... should be next week sometime.......lol pitiful jason __________________ this-n-that, always wanting more....lol

10-23-2005, 01:35 PM	#2
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... Jason, there will be some slack. guessing 1/8" or a little more. Glad you are motivated to get your car done now

10-23-2005, 01:37 PM	#3
One_live95 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dothan Posts: 617	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... i think i have more than that..... i am gonna push slack out and take a pic, i put the breaker bar on the crank bolt and i can turn it a little(crank will actually rotate a little) before the cam catches up..... this isn't good is it..... jason

10-23-2005, 01:42 PM	#4
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... no. that is not good __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

10-23-2005, 01:45 PM	#5
One_live95 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dothan Posts: 617	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... time to replace it, do i need another one like i have or can i just go get a basic cloyes from the parts house.......If it would be beneficial to advance the cam any i would just get another like i have now.... jason

10-23-2005, 07:36 PM	#6
Craig K. Nothing new here Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Senoia, GA Posts: 2,990	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... I have one that I would sell to you for $20. It is used, has about 1,000 miles (if that), these were racing miles (road racing), but the chain is still in really good shape, has three key's on the crank gear. PM me if interested. __________________ 1974 Triumph TR6 1985 Monte Carlo SS 1986 Mustang GT 2011 KIA Optima GTS

10-23-2005, 10:17 PM	#8
One_live95 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dothan Posts: 617	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... i am gonna wait on Craig to reply to my pm, if it isn't a "good" one, i will just get one out of summit probably the billet FRPP one...... Kinda wanted to go cheap but it will be in my best interest i guess not to....lol i am in the process of starting another motor for my car>>>>>. jason

10-26-2005, 03:54 PM	#9
coupe Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,313	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... If a new one goes on with a little "slack," then you might need to replace cam-bearings. Cam bearings with alot of miles and any oil starvation will wear significantly. But a little slack is normal; really. Get the pics up. __________________ " If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. " - Albert Einstein

10-27-2005, 05:15 AM	#10
One_live95 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dothan Posts: 617	Re: Cam timing, and gen questions.... Edumacate me... i will have to check that out......... that had never occured to me..... I am pretty sure i have never had an oil starvation issue though..... If so, i will just have to put the work into the other motor a lot sooner than i thought jason