caledit vs EEC analyzer maf curves

sinistercoupe · 02-20-2006, 05:05 PM

just curious i'm getting two different curves using the caledit 9-30 point calculator and the EA one. When i plug my 9 point numbers i got from PMAS in caledit the curve goes all the way to 3250 or so kg/hr and starts at a very low voltage like .009

i had brad (incontt) plug the same numbers into EA and the curve only went up to 2500 kg/hr but started at .6 volts. I put this curve into the Tweecer and the car wouldn't even start.

With the caledit curve it fired right up and idled smooth. the curves look very similar (flow vs volts) all the way up to 3.9 volts where the caledit curve really takes off for some reason? So what i did was to use the values from the EA curve after the 3.9 volts and keep the 0-3.7 values from the caledit curve. From what i have seen most 50# cals seem to max out at 2500 kg/hr no matter either draw or blowthrough

i confirmed this with PMAS today and they said they is really not difference in the calibration except being on what is installed in front of the blowthrough setup. They said they would give me a 30 point curve but they charge for it...wonder if it would be similar to either one of these.

QWKSNKE · 02-20-2006, 05:29 PM

I didn't know that EA did the 9 to 30 point conversion. I thought it only worked on the 30 point improvements

sinistercoupe · 02-20-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

I didn't know that EA did the 9 to 30 point conversion. I thought it only worked on the 30 point improvements

yeah, i don't really know too much about it. I just asked brad since i was trying to use that spreadsheet that is on the EEC tuner board but wasn't having any luck making that work and he said he used EA and i gave him my numbers and he gave me that 30 point curve.

Dale McPeters · 02-20-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by QWKSNKE

I didn't know that EA did the 9 to 30 point conversion. I thought it only worked on the 30 point improvements

Yep pretty slick too by the way...

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Originally Posted by sinistercoupe

yeah, i don't really know too much about it. I just asked brad since i was trying to use that spreadsheet that is on the EEC tuner board but wasn't having any luck making that work and he said he used EA and i gave him my numbers and he gave me that 30 point curve.

Email me your flowsheet and let me take a look at it.
I have some more software to double check the numbers etc.

mcpetedl at grandecom dot net

Disney Lincoln · 02-21-2006, 01:37 AM

Personally, I like the EA 9-30 better than Caledit, but both will need work in the end.

sinistercoupe · 02-21-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale McPeters

Yep pretty slick too by the way...

Email me your flowsheet and let me take a look at it.
I have some more software to double check the numbers etc.

mcpetedl at grandecom dot net

thanks dale. I emailed you the 9 point data. Let me know what you come up with.

Dale McPeters · 02-21-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sinistercoupe

thanks dale. I emailed you the 9 point data. Let me know what you come up with.

You are welcome and I will try to get it back to you tomorrow night.

86GT · 02-21-2006, 09:09 PM

Opps did I foget to mention that it could do that. Disney is correct either way you go they will both just be estimates.

A Pony Chic · 02-22-2006, 03:55 PM

How do you calculate the 9 point in EA? Also the conversion in Cal Edit asks for 10 numbers and the flow sheet we got from PMAS only has 9 numbers where do I get the 10th number? We finally got the motor back and an A9L so we will be trying to do some programming tonight.

QWKSNKE · 02-22-2006, 04:59 PM

start with 0

02-20-2006, 05:05 PM	#1
sinistercoupe Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 23	caledit vs EEC analyzer maf curves just curious i'm getting two different curves using the caledit 9-30 point calculator and the EA one. When i plug my 9 point numbers i got from PMAS in caledit the curve goes all the way to 3250 or so kg/hr and starts at a very low voltage like .009 i had brad (incontt) plug the same numbers into EA and the curve only went up to 2500 kg/hr but started at .6 volts. I put this curve into the Tweecer and the car wouldn't even start. With the caledit curve it fired right up and idled smooth. the curves look very similar (flow vs volts) all the way up to 3.9 volts where the caledit curve really takes off for some reason? So what i did was to use the values from the EA curve after the 3.9 volts and keep the 0-3.7 values from the caledit curve. From what i have seen most 50# cals seem to max out at 2500 kg/hr no matter either draw or blowthrough i confirmed this with PMAS today and they said they is really not difference in the calibration except being on what is installed in front of the blowthrough setup. They said they would give me a 30 point curve but they charge for it...wonder if it would be similar to either one of these.

02-20-2006, 05:29 PM	#2
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: caledit vs EEC analyzer maf curves I didn't know that EA did the 9 to 30 point conversion. I thought it only worked on the 30 point improvements __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

02-21-2006, 01:37 AM	#5
Disney Lincoln Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 290	Re: caledit vs EEC analyzer maf curves Personally, I like the EA 9-30 better than Caledit, but both will need work in the end.

02-21-2006, 09:09 PM	#8
86GT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 449	Re: caledit vs EEC analyzer maf curves Opps did I foget to mention that it could do that. Disney is correct either way you go they will both just be estimates. __________________ EEC Analyzer A9M, TwEECer, 306ci, 73mm C&L w Tuner Tube, Cobra Intake, 42# inj, Edelbrock 6037, E303 cam, 155 fuel pump, FPR, 70mm TB, E-Fan, 3.55 gears, Powerdyne 9psi actual 5psi...way more.

02-22-2006, 03:55 PM	#9
A Pony Chic Pink Ladies Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Anniston, AL Posts: 87	Re: caledit vs EEC analyzer maf curves How do you calculate the 9 point in EA? Also the conversion in Cal Edit asks for 10 numbers and the flow sheet we got from PMAS only has 9 numbers where do I get the 10th number? We finally got the motor back and an A9L so we will be trying to do some programming tonight.

02-22-2006, 04:59 PM	#10
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: caledit vs EEC analyzer maf curves start with 0 __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy