Header question

redhorse · 06-11-2006, 10:40 AM

I would like some good advice from those of you who know what you are talking about and have not been educated out of a hot rod magazine.

Need input on the difference and advantages of Long tube headers and shorties. I have a Pro-chamber now and know if I go with Long tubes I will have to change. Still I would like to know some of the differences, such as in Horsepower and Torque and overall performance.

QWKSNKE · 06-11-2006, 08:33 PM

IMO, Long tubes would not be worth the hassle. I feel that in a mostly stock application that shorty headers would be fine.

If you were heavily modified like asilver2001gt's car (or had plans to be in the future) then there MAY be an advantage with them.

In other words, long tubes seem to respond well to (or be better suited for) a heavily modified or high boost application (over 13-14psi)

rtusnake · 06-11-2006, 11:00 PM

I've put longtubes on both of my cars and I like them, but both of mine were supercharged. They are a pain to install but I like the fact they help alittle getting heat out of the motor. Only issues with longtubes unless you get the brands that cost more money is that you have to remove one side or at least loosen them to change the tranny.

EZ SPEED · 06-12-2006, 03:03 AM

IMHO longtube are only needed from 500rwhp and up. I made 503 rwhp through stock manifolds. They are not as resrictive as people think.

QWKSNKE · 06-12-2006, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rtusnake

. Only issues with longtubes unless you get the brands that cost more money is that you have to remove one side or at least loosen them to change the tranny.

I can tell you that the expensive ones (such as the 5 piece SHM ones) have to be removed on one side as well

rtusnake · 06-12-2006, 12:31 PM

Only ones I've heard you don't for sure are hooker and kooks. I can remove the t56 with bbk longtubes though

TheJeanyus · 06-12-2006, 12:36 PM

On a mod motor, the stock manifolds really flow pretty well and shorty headers don't make much of a difference from the people I've talked to. Long tubes do make a difference, but they're really not worth the hastle unless you're putting in a tubular K member or something because they are such a PITA to install.

redhorse · 06-12-2006, 03:17 PM

Alright since the subject of the Tubular K Member has come up. Will the shorties work or rather can I use both of them together? Or will I run into a problem trying to use the K Member with the Shorties? Thanks for the input folks?

QWKSNKE · 06-12-2006, 03:25 PM

k-member will work with either header

06-11-2006, 10:40 AM	#1
redhorse Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Trussville, Al Posts: 819	Header question I would like some good advice from those of you who know what you are talking about and have not been educated out of a hot rod magazine. Need input on the difference and advantages of Long tube headers and shorties. I have a Pro-chamber now and know if I go with Long tubes I will have to change. Still I would like to know some of the differences, such as in Horsepower and Torque and overall performance.

06-11-2006, 08:33 PM	#2
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Header question IMO, Long tubes would not be worth the hassle. I feel that in a mostly stock application that shorty headers would be fine. If you were heavily modified like asilver2001gt's car (or had plans to be in the future) then there MAY be an advantage with them. In other words, long tubes seem to respond well to (or be better suited for) a heavily modified or high boost application (over 13-14psi)

06-11-2006, 11:00 PM	#3
rtusnake Halfshaft Killer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Kingdom Posts: 3,910	Re: Header question I've put longtubes on both of my cars and I like them, but both of mine were supercharged. They are a pain to install but I like the fact they help alittle getting heat out of the motor. Only issues with longtubes unless you get the brands that cost more money is that you have to remove one side or at least loosen them to change the tranny. __________________ 03 Cobra 06 F250 (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

06-12-2006, 03:03 AM	#4
EZ SPEED Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tempe Arizona Posts: 3,029	Re: Header question IMHO longtube are only needed from 500rwhp and up. I made 503 rwhp through stock manifolds. They are not as resrictive as people think. __________________ 2020 Range Rover Sport HSE P525 Dynamic - Firenze Red - Supercharged 5.0 - 518 HP SOLD - 2010 Camaro SS [/B] - Featured in GM High Tech Performance and Camaro Now Magazines - http://www.superchevy.com/features/g...of-perfection/

06-12-2006, 12:31 PM	#6
rtusnake Halfshaft Killer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Kingdom Posts: 3,910	Re: Header question Only ones I've heard you don't for sure are hooker and kooks. I can remove the t56 with bbk longtubes though __________________ 03 Cobra 06 F250 (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

06-12-2006, 12:36 PM	#7
TheJeanyus Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 14,774	Re: Header question On a mod motor, the stock manifolds really flow pretty well and shorty headers don't make much of a difference from the people I've talked to. Long tubes do make a difference, but they're really not worth the hastle unless you're putting in a tubular K member or something because they are such a PITA to install. __________________ 1998 Mustang GT Coupe - World's Slowest Racecar 2005 Toyota 4Runner SR5 V8 2013 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI

06-12-2006, 03:17 PM	#8
redhorse Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Trussville, Al Posts: 819	Re: Header question Alright since the subject of the Tubular K Member has come up. Will the shorties work or rather can I use both of them together? Or will I run into a problem trying to use the K Member with the Shorties? Thanks for the input folks?

06-12-2006, 03:25 PM	#9
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Header question k-member will work with either header __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy